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Old 07 January 2014, 08:11 PM
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Delta Air Lines is retiring its last DC-9s, the oldest passenger plane in the fleet of the big U.S. airlines.
Delta operated the final passenger flight from Minneapolis to Atlanta Monday evening.
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Old 07 January 2014, 08:55 PM
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Well... sort of.

According to Wikipedia, the MD-80 was build under a modification of the DC-9's FAA certificate, so it is really just a new name for an old plane. And, also according to Wikipedia, Delta flies over 170 MD-80's.
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Old 07 January 2014, 09:02 PM
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A DC9 is a DC9, and the plate on it is says so. The MD80 is a modified DC9 and it says MD80. They share quite a few parts and all, but it's still a different plane and requires "differences training".

I've flown on numerous DC9's and their descendants (MD80, MD88, Super-80, etc). Sort of sad to see it go but sort of glad at the same time that it's leaving. Quite a dated plane!

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Old 07 January 2014, 09:03 PM
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And when Boeing bought Douglas, another DC-9 derivative, the MD-95, in turn became the Boeing 717 (which ended production in 2006). So while the DC-9 proper may have been retired, the design will live on for a bit yet.

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Old 07 January 2014, 09:17 PM
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Well... sort of.

According to Wikipedia, the MD-80 was build under a modification of the DC-9's FAA certificate, so it is really just a new name for an old plane. And, also according to Wikipedia, Delta flies over 170 MD-80's.
Heck, the MD-80 was originally going to be called the DC-9-80, but for marketing reasons it was changed to denote that it wasn't the same old DC-9 but a new, modern, 1980s plane.

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A DC9 is a DC9, and the plate on it is says so. The MD80 is a modified DC9 and it says MD80. They share quite a few parts and all, but it's still a different plane and requires "differences training".
IIRC that's even true for different Boeing 737 models, like the earlier 737-300 versus a 737-800. Boeing chose to continue calling modernized versions of their earlier design "737s" while MD decided to change the name in the 1980s.

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I've flown on numerous DC9's and their descendants (MD80, MD88, Super-80, etc). Sort of sad to see it go but sort of glad at the same time that it's leaving. Quite a dated plane!
I rather like the 3-2 seating layout -- less chance of getting a middle seat! And from a purely aesthetic perspective I just like look of the long, sleek, t-tailed MD-80 versus the rather boring looking 737 and A320.

As far as them being dated, I've never had the chance to fly on one of Northwest/Delta's DC-9s, but like the article says they had their cabins refurbished in the 1990s. I've heard a lot of passengers believed they were flying on a brand new plane after they got the new more modern looking cabins.

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Old 07 January 2014, 09:27 PM
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A DC9 is a DC9, and the plate on it is says so. The MD80 is a modified DC9 and it says MD80. They share quite a few parts and all, but it's still a different plane and requires "differences training".
You might want to read deeper into your own link. They offer differences training on lots of models of aircraft.

Also, the FAA thinks the DC-9 and the MD-80 line of aircraft are the same basic model as they all share one type certificate (pdf). Note that the first few "new models", are called DC-9-81 (MD-81), DC-9-82 (MD-82),DC-9-83 (MD-83), and DC-9-87 (MD-87).
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So what will happen to this plane? Scrap heap or auction block?
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Old 07 January 2014, 10:41 PM
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According to this article, some will be sent to museums and some will be like everybody else and retire to Arizona. I would guess that the last DC-9 labeled aircraft to fly a revenue mission would be destined for a museum, but it probably depends on the condition of the actual craft.
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Delta actually has their own museum, and I've heard one of the DC-9s is going there, although I don't know if it's this specific plane. The rest, yeah, most likely will be used for spare parts/scrap.
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I guess I've missed my chance to see Dallas from a DC-9 at night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1mQvHXRlZE
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I rather like the 3-2 seating layout -- less chance of getting a middle seat! And from a purely aesthetic perspective I just like look of the long, sleek, t-tailed MD-80 versus the rather boring looking 737 and A320.

As far as them being dated, I've never had the chance to fly on one of Northwest/Delta's DC-9s, but like the article says they had their cabins refurbished in the 1990s. I've heard a lot of passengers believed they were flying on a brand new plane after they got the new more modern looking cabins.
I always liked the 3-2 seating for the same reason you mentioned.

While I always found the DC9's to be dated, they were never quite as dated as the old Delta Lockheed 1011 (yikes) or the Delta 727's (double-yikes). The 727 had notoriously atrocious seats, and often times the seat backs were slouching in a very annoying fashions (especially for the passenger behind you). When I was flying those in the late 90's, even a 40-lb lighter version of myself had a hard time flying coach on those.

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Old 08 January 2014, 05:36 PM
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I guess I've missed my chance to see Dallas from a DC-9 at night.
Unless you count the MD-80, as discussed earlier. American has a bunch of those and happens to have their largest hub at DFW.

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While I always found the DC9's to be dated, they were never quite as dated as the old Delta Lockheed 1011 (yikes) or the Delta 727's (double-yikes).
OY
And while the DC-9 and 727 were both 1960s designs, it's kind of amazing that the DC-9 remained in service for over a decade after most 727s were retired. Douglas planes had a reputation for being pretty much indestructible.

The most dated plane I can recall flying in was a United Boeing 737-300, before they retired them a few years ago. That cabin was a time warp back to the 1980s.
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Unless you count the MD-80, as discussed earlier. American has a bunch of those and happens to have their largest hub at DFW.


I thought the same thing. Although "Have you ever seen Dallas from a DC-9 derivative at night?" just doesn't have the same ring to it!
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I guess I've missed my chance to see Dallas from a DC-9 at night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1mQvHXRlZE
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I guess I've missed my chance to see Dallas from a DC-9 at night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1mQvHXRlZE
I think I've got a live R.E.M. bootleg version of that somewhere...

Yes, I have. It's not as good as the original though.
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