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Old 23 April 2013, 01:29 AM
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I'm trying to find the source of said image.

Board reads:
"Will a Man Rob God?
Malachi 3:8
Non-Tithers Board"

Earliest posting appears to be from September 2011. Any one have a source?

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Old 25 April 2013, 11:46 PM
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Where did you find this, Ichabod? Did it come from a church that preaches mandatory tithing based on Malachi 3? Did you find it on Facebook or some other website forum?

The practice of mandatory tithing based on Malachi 3 is very oppressive in my opinion. In fact, Christians who believed in tithing used to base their belief and practice on Abraham's tithe to a priest in Genesis. The writer of the New Testament epistle to the Hebrews mentions it in passing, only that passage has to do with comparing Jesus to this priest. It is not about giving itself.

Telling people that they have to tithe, based on Malachi 3, turns giving into a duty--something compulsory. I have been churches where I explained to believers in mandatory tithing that a person may not even afford to tithe 10 percent of all his/her income. What I would get in response is: "You can't afford NOT to tithe! Think of all the blessing you get when you tithe! And if you don't tithe, you steal from God, and you will receive curses instead!"

That sounds very harsh. And it also sounds superstitious!

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Old 26 April 2013, 12:49 AM
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And it also sounds superstitious!
As opposed to what other part of religion?
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Old 26 April 2013, 06:24 AM
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As opposed to what other part of religion?
Exactly...
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Old 26 April 2013, 07:05 AM
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Telling people that they have to tithe, based on Malachi 3, turns giving into a duty--something compulsory. I have been churches where I explained to believers in mandatory tithing that a person may not even afford to tithe 10 percent of all his/her income. What I would get in response is: "You can't afford NOT to tithe! Think of all the blessing you get when you tithe! And if you don't tithe, you steal from God, and you will receive curses instead!"
Now I've got George Carlin's stand up routine about how God always needs money stuck in my head, mixing with "Why does God need a starship?"
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Old 04 May 2013, 09:21 AM
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I have this one friend I've known since kindergarten who, during college, became a born again Christian. That's fine, but she was super strict about tithing. In her church it wasn't optional. I mean, obviously it was, but the pastor as well as the members were very insistent that it must be done and it would be mentioned if someone didn't do it. I asked her what people are supposed to do if tithing means they can't afford groceries for their family. The answer was that the church collects food to hand out to members who need it. Well, what is the point of handing over your money so the church can do your grocery shopping?
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Old 04 May 2013, 02:55 PM
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Well, what is the point of handing over your money so the church can do your grocery shopping?
The point is that if you spend your money on yourself, you're being selfish, and that's not good. If you give your money to the church, and the church gives you food which they have purchased with your money, then you're being unselfish, which is good.
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Old 04 May 2013, 03:37 PM
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Sounds distinctly like socialism to me.
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Old 05 May 2013, 06:51 AM
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The point is that if you spend your money on yourself, you're being selfish, and that's not good. If you give your money to the church, and the church gives you food which they have purchased with your money, then you're being unselfish, which is good.
Oy. Church imposed poverty. Sad for families who would be comfortable or at least not have to receive food donations if it wasn't for tithing.
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If I wrote a cheque, made payable to God (not negotiable - account payee only), would that suffice?
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Old 05 May 2013, 07:31 AM
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No, God only accepts cash.

He's kind of like the Oracle in that respect.

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Old 06 May 2013, 05:03 PM
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It's been a long time since I've been in a church, the tithing bowls were just handed around anonymously. Do they keep tabs noiw?
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Old 06 May 2013, 05:27 PM
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It's been a long time since I've been in a church, the tithing bowls were just handed around anonymously. Do they keep tabs noiw?
No, they don't allow tabs. It's COC (Cash on Communion) only.
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Old 06 May 2013, 05:38 PM
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It's been a long time since I've been in a church, the tithing bowls were just handed around anonymously. Do they keep tabs noiw?
Depends on the church, some churches have been keeping tabs for a very long time now. My parent's church when I was a kid did. When I was last a member of a church, we kept records when we could (people paid with checks).
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Old 06 May 2013, 07:33 PM
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The pastor of the Catholic church I attended in Canada said this "A lot of you faithful choose to give us anonymous donations, saying that what you give is between you and God. We thank you for that, but we - the church - has a problem with that. The government wants us to be accountable for all of our income and expenses, and as a charitable organization, this is required of us. Please help us to stay legitimate and make your donations using your registration." In Catholic churches, nobody checks your income tax return and chastises you for donating less than 10% - donations are completely voluntary - but staying legitimate with the law ("rendering unto Caesar" as it were) is encouraged. Lots of cash still makes its way into the donation basket - parents giving their children a coin or a single bill to put in - because the kids want to do *something* - and I suppose it always will.
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Old 06 May 2013, 07:45 PM
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I visited a Catholic Church and put in a Visitor's Envelope for Mass and put my name and address on it. Well, than I got Catholic junk mail, with this thing with an envelope where they wanted me to put money in it and put it in the offertory at Mass.
This summer when I go it's name only.

At the church where I went you got envelopes with your name and address on them - one for each week. You could also arrange for the money to be taken out of your account each week and were given slips to put in the basket saying your offering was being paid automatically (so no one thought you were welshing, presumably).

You do get a receipt at the end of the year for it.
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Old 08 May 2013, 05:04 AM
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(so no one thought you were welshing, presumably)
Complete hijack: "welshing"? I understand the meaning (or I think I do): being ungenerous, tightfisted. But what has it to do with being Welsh?
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Old 08 May 2013, 06:04 AM
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I thought it was welching.

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Old 08 May 2013, 08:24 AM
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They're probably the same root. What does it have with being Welsh? Ask the English a few hundred years ago. Apparently some of the English were extremely bigoted.
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Old 08 May 2013, 08:25 AM
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Never seen anything like this. Every church I can recall going to just passed around a plate. I'm sure people could write a check if they wanted, but I've never seen a church publicly shame people who didn't give. I HAVE seen some that can get a bit pushy about donations, but nothing as bad as what the photo is depicting or what others have said. Are there particular denominations that push tithing more so than others?
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