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Old 09 May 2013, 10:53 PM
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Jaded War on Christmas, 2013 edition

On the brink of summer, defending Christmas is on the wish list of the Texas Legislature.

The Texas House has approved a bipartisan bill that aims to remove legal risks of saying "Merry Christmas" in Texas public schools. Traditional holiday symbols, such as a menorah or nativity scene, would also win a nod of state support so long as more than one religion and a secular symbol are also reflected.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...ics&id=9096048
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Old 10 May 2013, 12:23 AM
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It really DOES start earlier every year.

Was there ever a legal risk to saying "Merry Christmas" in schools? That sounds like a First Amendment issue if anyone actually WAS punished for it.
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Old 10 May 2013, 12:31 AM
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I'm assuming this is HB 308, which, as I suspected, provides no requirement that the other religion's or secular symbol be of similar size or prominance. Which can mean a 12ft tall Christmas tree paired with a 1 ft menorah and a 10 inch peace symbol seems to be okay.

In a good bit though, it says that any messages may not encourage adherance to a particular religion.
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Old 10 May 2013, 01:34 AM
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All ready?! It's not even Memorial Day yet!

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Old 10 May 2013, 01:52 AM
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As I've stated before, I think tackling the issue of Christmas displays in public spaces by allowing other religious displays at the same time is a poor solution, because the timeframe has no special significance to those other groups. Saying that everyone else can put up their displays at Christmastime (and only at Christmastime) is as nonsensical as allowing Christians to put up nativity scenes during Ramadan (and only during Ramadan).
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Old 10 May 2013, 01:59 AM
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Why just winter celebrations? What happens if someone wants to put up Easter decorations or wish students "Happy Passover"?
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Old 10 May 2013, 02:22 AM
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Why just winter celebrations? What happens if someone wants to put up Easter decorations or wish students "Happy Passover"?
I do recall some dustup when a woman wanted to put up an Easter display on public property. It might have been this.
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Old 10 May 2013, 03:16 AM
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As I've stated before, I think tackling the issue of Christmas displays in public spaces by allowing other religious displays at the same time is a poor solution, because the timeframe has no special significance to those other groups. Saying that everyone else can put up their displays at Christmastime (and only at Christmastime) is as nonsensical as allowing Christians to put up nativity scenes during Ramadan (and only during Ramadan).
Well, there are some. Hanukkah is pretty close in time, and there's the winter solstice for folks who care for it. And us secular folks I guess at least have the New Year (and "Secular Xmas" as I think of it - where the holy trinity is Santa, Frosty, and Rudolph). But yeah, not much for Buddhists, Muslims, or Hindus, so far as I know.

I don't know if there would be a way to divvy up the year so various sects (including nonbelievers) get more-or-less equal time. Unfortunately it's now become such a "cause" for the Christianists that they'll never let us go to something sensible, like letting everyone set up whatever display they want on private property and keeping all out of public institutions.
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Well, there are some. Hanukkah is pretty close in time
But Hanukkah isn't nearly as important in Judaism as Christmas is in Christianity. It's kind of like saying that Jews can set up displays at public schools during Passover, but to be fair we'll allow the Christians to put up some Whit Tuesday decorations.
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Jaded Texas Passes 'Merry Christmas Bill' To Fight War On Christmas

Texas lawmakers have just made it politically correct for teachers to say Merry Christmas in the classroom.

It may be have been a hot 94 degrees outside the capitol, but inside it felt like Christmas for State Representative Dwayne Bohac of Houston. House Bill 308, what Bohac has dubbed the Merry Christmas bill, is now on the way to Governor Rick Perry's desk.

"It allows school districts to say Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah," Bohac said.

http://www.myfoxaustin.com/story/223...christmas-bill
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Icon13 Brothers ordered to take down Christmas decorations

A Pennsylvania homeowner is accusing township officials of selective enforcement for ordering his brother, who lives in the home, to remove yard decorations

http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2013/05/...1821369177600/
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Soapbox ‘Merry Christmas Bill’ expected to become law in Texas soon

After a good amount of hoopla, Texas Governor Rick Perry is expected to quietly sign legislation allowing public schools to celebrate Christmas and other winter holidays plainly and explicitly without fear of lawsuits.

http://news.yahoo.com/ho-ho-ho-merry...123624713.html
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Old 31 May 2013, 03:21 AM
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Texas lawmakers have just made it politically correct for teachers to say Merry Christmas in the classroom.
Well I will certainly sleep better tonight now that this burning issue of our times has been resolved.
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Teacher Moved Xmas Card Poster at Brooklet Elem. Causes Headaches

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BULLOCH COUNTY, GA - The Bulloch Co. School District is fighting back after they say a false news report was filed by a Fox News Radio commentator about Brooklet Elementary confiscating Christmas cards.
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Old 05 December 2013, 07:46 AM
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How did I know it would be Todd Starnes? There's pretty much nothing that he doesn't view as a plot against Christians.
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I think we need a "war on the war on Christmas" thread.
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Speaking of, has anyone seen Sarah Palin's new book about Christmas?
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Speaking of, has anyone seen Sarah Palin's new book about Christmas?
Nope.

Dawn--time to explore the Amazon--Storm


ETA: Here we go folks!

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