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Old 04 March 2013, 12:33 AM
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Comment: I recently attended an official sexual harassment briefing
conducted by the U.S. Air Force. In that class it was being taught the
the phrase "more bang for your buck" dated back to the slave trade era.
He said male slaves were called "bucks" in order to dehumanize them and
slave owners wanted male slaves that were capable of producing offspring.
So a male slave that had a history of impregnating other female slaves was
more valuable. Hence the phrase "more bang for your buck".
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Old 04 March 2013, 12:51 AM
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The "buck" part of that phrase is surely a straightforward reference to a dollar? If there's any doubt, it's what "bang" means. I was expecting this to say that it was a reference to cheap prostitutes who would have more sex with you for a dollar. That would almost make sense (except that I just made it up). Introducing slavery doesn't seem to add much.

According to the Cassell Dictionary of Slang, it is true that "buck" was used in more-or-less that sense, to refer to black men in particular. It says: "6. a man, esp. Indian or Black, when it becomes derog.", and then "The strength and sexuality of the male animal underpins [6] in particular, where buck is often an abbr. of the marginally more opprobrious buck nigger: the female equivalent is a wench". I don't see why that would be the sense used in this phrase though.
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Old 04 March 2013, 01:26 AM
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Was bang used as a euphemism for sex at that time?
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Old 04 March 2013, 01:28 AM
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Even if it were, the origin described in the OP would surely have led to "more bang from your buck," not ". . .for your buck."
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Old 04 March 2013, 04:02 AM
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Seems to have been used in a military context first:

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In order to contain defense costs, the New Look brought about a shift in emphasis from conventional military capability to "air-atomic" capability in the form of the Strategic Air Command within a scaled-down overall military establishment. Land and naval forces were cut. Continental air defense was expanded. Although strategic air power attained a lower level than the Truman administration had projected, it became the centerpiece of U.S. security thinking, embodied in the doctrine of "Massive Retaliation." Summarized in the popular slogan "more bang for the buck," Massive Retaliation was intended to be both a deterrent to an enemy and an economy of scale if deterrence failed. [5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Look_%28policy%29

See also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bang_for_the_buck
http://www.webcitation.org/5uoIXvAv3
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Old 13 May 2013, 01:33 AM
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Comment: I read "When Michigan was a young territory, deer were so common
and hunting such a part of life, that deer skins or whole deer were used
as money. A deer carcass was worth a dollar, and hence, the dollar became
known for what it was worth - "a buck."
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Yes, that's right people carried stacks of deer carcasses around as money. They still do in some parts of the state.
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Making change was always a pain though, hence the use of the "Need a rabbit? Take a rabbit. Got a rabbit? Leave a rabbit" trays at the check out counters.

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