Taelor Vega

[snopes]

Comment: A friend of mine posted a screenshotted conversation in which a
woman, Taelor Vega (whose husband was in the army) was asking to "hang
out" (implied much more than that) with a guy she thought was cute. The
guy, Johnny Heward, upon telling her how awful this was says that he will
screenshot the conversation to show to her husband and the world.
Is this real?

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=1&theater

[Ryda Wong, EBfCo.]

Comments on the thread suggest it's a fake, as the photo is actually from the profile pics of a ballerina.

Of course, that doesn't seem to matter much to many of the commentators on the thread, as they seem willing to take this as evidence of the need to slut shame and harangue women whose spouses are in the armed forces and who may seek company while said spouse is gone.

Frankly, it seems to be a publicity stunt by a narcissistic misogynist.

[Avril]

Taelor Vega fake Johnny Heward a liar

ETA: Or, Taelor Vega is real. But like Santa Claus.

[Ryda Wong, EBfCo.]

Seriously, even if this WAS real, calling a cheating spouse a "terrorist" is beyond ridiculous.

[Alarm]

Originally Posted by Avril

Taelor Vega fake Johnny Heward a liar

ETA: Or, Taelor Vega is real. But like Santa Claus.

That last link is just sad.
"She's real, she could be anybody! a lot of army wives are just foolish kids"

That's not the point, really. The point is, this chapeau-fessier of a musician posted their conversation online, faked or not. For what reason? What does he gain by doing it if she's merely a "lonely army wife" looking for "fun".

Fame... that's all and that's why he's a chapeau-fessier. A real patriot would just blow her off not waste his time "exposing" her, when it's obivous to every Tom, Dick and GI Joe that the profile is faked (to what degree can be argued).

[Mickey Blue]

Originally Posted by Ryda Wong, EBfCo.

Comments on the thread suggest it's a fake, as the photo is actually from the profile pics of a ballerina.

Of course, that doesn't seem to matter much to many of the commentators on the thread, as they seem willing to take this as evidence of the need to slut shame and harangue women whose spouses are in the armed forces and who may seek company while said spouse is gone.

Frankly, it seems to be a publicity stunt by a narcissistic misogynist.

The OP won't open for me, but my understanding of 'slut shaming' is that it goes after women who sleep with lots of guys.. But going after a woman for cheating on her husband (particularly one who is fighting overseas.. From an emotional standpoint at least) doesn't strike me as the same. I mean I don't know how one measures things but while there is an obvious double standard between men who sleep around and women do, there isn't as much of an obvious double standard of men who cheat and women who cheat.

[fitz1980]

Originally Posted by Mickey Blue

The OP won't open for me, but my understanding of 'slut shaming' is that it goes after women who sleep with lots of guys.

My impression of slut shaming is that it's about shaming women for enjoying sex.

My own experience with military guys is that tend to be the most opened group of people I've ever encountered who openly talk about visiting prostitutes & cheating on their wives while overseas. But if that same wife cheats on her husband while he's away suddenly she's a horrible person.

[Mickey Blue]

Well I suspect most people are able to justify their own cheating in some way, but I more mean societies views of cheating in general.

Yes, the "Girl in every port" is something of a stereotype of the military but speaking more realistically I don't notice guys getting a pass on cheating.

Regardless, based again on the descriptions by others (as again the OP will not load for me) the issue isn't that she enjoys sex but that she wanted to enjoy sex with somebody who was not her SO.

[Ana Ng]

Originally Posted by Mickey Blue

The OP won't open for me, but my understanding of 'slut shaming' is that it goes after women who sleep with lots of guys...

No. Just any woman who is perceived to be sexual... does anything that the slut shamer doesn't like, or maybe just threatens the person doing it in general, even non-sexually.

It's not something people bring upon themselves, it's a way to control women and/or mitigate shitty behavior.

[Mickey Blue]

So wait I don't understand.. Slut shaming is shaming a woman for any reason? I mean surely you can shame somebody for a sexually related issue (like cheating on your SO, not being respectful of your sexual partner, not being a generous sexual partner, to name a few) without slut shaming.

If you are saying "She is bad for trying to cheat on her soldier SO" how is that automatically slut shaming? Again, assuming there isn't some more details in the OP that I cannot see that would change it. Even if they went overboard for their hate of a cheater I don't see why it crosses into 'slut shaming', and would saying the same about a man cheating also be 'slut shaming'?

[Swordmaster]

So there's no way that the imaginary and completely hypothetical couple have an open marriage? Or an "arrangement" of sorts?

[Mickey Blue]

[assuming that was directed at me]

It seems clear that in the OP they don't, again I cannot read it though (as stated).

I'm deliberately not trying to play the hypothetical game, rather going by:

Comment: A friend of mine posted a screenshotted conversation in which a
woman, Taelor Vega (whose husband was in the army) was asking to "hang
out" (implied much more than that) with a guy she thought was cute. The
guy, Johnny Heward, upon telling her how awful this was says that he will
screenshot the conversation to show to her husband and the world.
Is this real?

Which suggests I guess that they don't have an open relationship.. I mean I guess they may and didn't bother to inform the person being hit on (or did and he didn't believe her but again, now we are getting into 'what if..' territory).

Between that and nobody suggesting she was in an open relationship of some kind I figured she probably was not (something I consider to be a safe assumption) and continued with why would shaming a woman for cheating (or trying to cheat) fall under 'slut shaming'.

[Swordmaster]

I wasn't directing it at anyone, I was just suggesting the possibility.

The link in the OP didn't work for me. I did check out Avril's second link and, from the conversation in the screen shot, I'd say that there is no indication one way or the other.

To me, the slut shaming comes from staging/faking this in the first place. Look what those slutty women do, cheating on their boyfriends/husbands while they're off fighting for our country. They should be ashamed of themselves!

[Ryda Wong, EBfCo.]

Originally Posted by Swordmaster

To me, the slut shaming comes from staging/faking this in the first place. Look what those slutty women do, cheating on their boyfriends/husbands while they're off fighting for our country. They should be ashamed of themselves!

This exactly.

[Palantino]

I may be off base here, but how does this compare to the story a few weeks ago with the female model who publicly twittered about the married male actor hitting on her during their air flight. Other than the roles being reversed and unless I missed otherwise, confirmed as actually occurring.

[Richard W]

Originally Posted by Alarm

That last link is just sad.
"She's real, she could be anybody! a lot of army wives are just foolish kids"

That's not the point, really.

The argument that it's a faked account because a real woman faked it so that she could cheat anonymously makes no sense anyway. (I know that's not the whole argument in the link, but it's certainly suggested as a possibility in various places).

If that were the case, and there was a real woman hiding behind this fake profile with a fake name and picture, then why on earth would she care if the picture was broadcast? Nobody would know who she was. How would her husband ever find out?

[Alarm]

Originally Posted by Richard W

The argument that it's a faked account because a real woman faked it so that she could cheat anonymously makes no sense anyway. (I know that's not the whole argument in the link, but it's certainly suggested as a possibility in various places).

If that were the case, and there was a real woman hiding behind this fake profile with a fake name and picture, then why on earth would she care if the picture was broadcast? Nobody would know who she was. How would her husband ever find out?

I think that article is what Ryda was pointing out... an attempt at slut-shaming.

"It doesn't matter that you're not her and that you're totally anonymous, you should be ashamed! See what's happening to this completely made up woman? That could be YOU eleventy one"

[Ryda Wong, EBfCo.]

Originally Posted by Palantino

I may be off base here, but how does this compare to the story a few weeks ago with the female model who publicly twittered about the married male actor hitting on her during their air flight. Other than the roles being reversed and unless I missed otherwise, confirmed as actually occurring.

I'm not sure what you're referring to, exactly, but I don't see how the situations are analogous.

Do you have a link to the story?

[egracis]

Originally Posted by Ryda Wong, EBfCo.

I'm not sure what you're referring to, exactly, but I don't see how the situations are analogous.

Do you have a link to the story?

Here's a link to the Huffington Post article about the situation-

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1579552.html

[Ryda Wong, EBfCo.]

Yeah. That's a series of twitters about an annoying seatmate on a flight who got drunk and acted like an idiot. I don't see any comparison.