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Old 07 January 2011, 07:58 AM
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ACTUAL PASSPORT APPLICATION LETTER SENT BACK TO STATE DEPARTMENT

Dear Mrs. Ms. Or Sir:

I'm in the process of renewing my passport and still cannot believe this. How is it that Radio Shack has my address and telephone number and knows that I bought a cable TV from them in 1987 (23 years ago), and yet, the Federal Government is still asking me where I was born and on what date.


For Christ sakes, do you guys do this by hand? Ever heard of computers? My birth date you have in my social security file. It's on EVERY income tax form I've filed for the past 30 years. It's on my Medicare health insurance card and my driver's license, It's on the last eight damn passports I've had, It's on every stupid customs declaration form I've had to fill out before being allowed off the plane for the last 30 years. And it's on all those census forms that we have to do at election times.


Would somebody please take note, once and for all, that my mother's name is Maryanne, my father's name is Robert and I'm reasonably confident that neither name is likely to change between now and when I die.


Between you an' me, I've had enough of this bureaucratic bullshit!

You send the application to my house, then you ask me for my #*&#%*& address.


What is going on? You must have a gang of bureaucratic Neanderthal morons working there!


Look at my damn picture. Do I look like Bin Laden? And "No," I don't want to dig up Yasser Arafat, for shit sakes. I just want to go and park my ass on a sandy beach. And would someone please tell me, why would you give a damn whether I plan on visiting a farm in the next 15 days?


If I ever got the urge to do something weird to a chicken or a goat, believe you me, I'd sure as hell not want to tell anyone!


Well, I have to go now because I have to go to the other end of the city and get another #*@&#^@*@& copy of my birth certificate to the tune of $100..


Would it be so difficult to have all the services in the same area so I could get a new passport the same day? Nooooo, that would require planning and organization. And it would be too logical for the @&^*^%@% government.


You'd rather have us running all over the place like chickens with our heads cut off. Then, we have to find some asshole to confirm that it's really me in the damn picture - you know, the one where we're not allowed to smile.......Hey, you know why we can't smile? We're totally pissed off!


Signed


An Irate Citizen.


P.S. Remember what I wrote about getting someone to confirm that the picture is me? Well, my family has been in the United States of America since 1776. I have served in the military for something over 35 years and have had security clearances up the ying yang. However, I have to get someone important to verify who I am - you know, someone like my doctor........ WHO WAS BORN AND RAISED IN INDIA !
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Old 07 January 2011, 08:06 AM
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Love the racist sign off.....
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Old 07 January 2011, 08:14 AM
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My birth date you have in my social security file. It's on EVERY income tax form I've filed for the past 30 years. It's on my Medicare health insurance card and my driver's license, And it's on all those census forms that we have to do at election times.
Perhaps someone should clue him in that the State Department doesn't administer the Social Security and Medicare programs, collect taxes, issue driver's licenses, or conduct the national census.
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Old 07 January 2011, 08:22 AM
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Last time I needed a birth certificate, it cost me ten or fifteen bucks.
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Old 07 January 2011, 08:37 AM
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And would someone please tell me, why would you give a damn whether I plan on visiting a farm in the next 15 days?
Now, now Mr Irate; this is perfectly reasonable. They want to know if you're possibly going to be around sick or infested crops or animals. Do you want more agricutltural pests in the US?
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Old 07 January 2011, 08:40 AM
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Love the racist sign off.....
I don't even know what he's talking about. I can't find any notation in the passport renewal application or instructions that mention having a third party verify your identity. I can't find a requirement for a birth certificate either.

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Now, now Mr Irate; this is perfectly reasonable. They want to know if you're possibly going to be around sick or infested crops or animals. Do you want more agricutltural pests in the US?
Also not on the application. Maybe he's applying for a visa?
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Old 07 January 2011, 08:41 AM
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why would you give a damn whether I plan on visiting a farm in the next 15 days?
Because there are some nasty illnesses and parasites that can be transferred, unknowingly, by human movement to livestock/agricultural areas in your home country and could potentially wreck the economy. It's the same reason certain food products cannot be exported into certain countries as part of passenger baggage. Though that is related to 15 days after returning, surely, not 15 days from applying for a passport, unless they plan to carry out blood tests as part of the application and the tests could be compromised by exposure to farm animals/pesticides/etc.
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Old 07 January 2011, 08:43 AM
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I don't even know what he's talking about. I can't find any notation in the passport renewal application or instructions that mention having a third party verify your identity. I can't find a requirement for a birth certificate either.
I only had to do that on my initial application. For renewals it was just send the old one back with the forms and the fee. For change of name I had to provide evidence such as Deed Poll, Marriage Cert or divorce decree (Deed Poll in my case).
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Old 07 January 2011, 09:31 AM
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I don't even know what he's talking about. I can't find any notation in the passport renewal application or instructions that mention having a third party verify your identity. I can't find a requirement for a birth certificate either.
I think there was some sort of verification stamp/signature that I am who I say I am when I had to get a replacement passport due to damage. I know I did have to get a birth certificate for the replacement passport; since my passport was damaged (waterlogged) they wouldn't consider it proof of citizenship. And I had to do it through a Passport office (in my case one of the local post offices).
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Old 07 January 2011, 02:06 PM
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I don't even know what he's talking about. I can't find any notation in the passport renewal application or instructions that mention having a third party verify your identity. I can't find a requirement for a birth certificate either.
Perhaps this is one of those repackaged emails that started somewhere else. I know that there is/was a requirement for third party verification of photos in the UK.
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Old 07 January 2011, 02:11 PM
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I'm in the process of renewing my passport and still cannot believe this.
Me either, because to renew your passport you just fill out a simple two-page form, and mail it back with your old passport and current photo.

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It's on the last eight damn passports I've had
Passports are valid for 10 years, so this guy either routinely loses them, has them stolen, or damaged beyond repair. In which case, he'd probably fire up the same rant about security measures not being tight enough when someone steals his passport and commits identity theft.

"They" also do not mail the application to your house. You download it online or pick it up in person from a post office or federal building.
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Old 07 January 2011, 02:21 PM
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Or he's the world's crankiest 90 year old.
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Old 07 January 2011, 04:38 PM
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Passports are valid for 10 years, so this guy either routinely loses them, has them stolen, or damaged beyond repair.
He could travel a lot, in which case he might fill up the passport + extra pages more quickly than the 10 years, and people who travel heavily sometimes get permission to have two (or even more) so that they aren't stuck somewhere while their passports are being processed for visas or so that they can have one for going to Israel and one for going to someplace like Saudi Arabia or Syria.

But probably not.
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Old 07 January 2011, 04:53 PM
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"They" also do not mail the application to your house. You download it online or pick it up in person from a post office or federal building.
I'll give him a pass on that. I don't know how old this is. Maybe he requested one be mailed to him.

Still, a person's mailing address is not necessary his home address, and if it was his home at the time he requested the application, it's possible that he moved by the time it arrived. What a stupid thing for him to complain about.
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Old 07 January 2011, 05:01 PM
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I'm in the process of renewing my passport and still cannot believe this. How is it that Radio Shack has my address and telephone number and knows that I bought a cable TV from them in 1987 (23 years ago), and yet, the Federal Government is still asking me where I was born and on what date.
Perhaps to confirm your identity and protect you from someone who might try to get a passport in your name. You're welcome.
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Old 07 January 2011, 05:41 PM
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I don't want to dig up Yasser Arafat
What the heck is this supposed to mean?

ETA : Forgot to add that US government passports are good only for 5 years. Certain positions (such as flying crew chief) were authorized 2 gov passports, and many also had their own. So it is possible to go through 8 passports in a 10 year period without ever losing one*. Not likely, but possible.
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Old 07 January 2011, 07:40 PM
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Perhaps someone should clue him in that the State Department doesn't administer the Social Security and Medicare programs, collect taxes, issue driver's licenses, or conduct the national census.
And that birth certificates are issued by state governments, not the federal government.
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Old 07 January 2011, 07:44 PM
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In Ohio, they're issued by county departments of health.
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Old 07 January 2011, 07:54 PM
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Well in any case they're not issued by the federal government.
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Old 07 January 2011, 07:54 PM
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I thought a lot of the kvetching during the Census was because people were worried about the government having all their information on file to keep track of them or whatever.

I can only imagine the complaining if all of an individual's information was centralized and didn't need to be requested.
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