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Old 24 June 2010, 08:42 PM
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Comment: I was wondering if you could find out some history behind this e-mail I received:

Have you ever seen a down syndrome Tiger before?



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Old 24 June 2010, 08:44 PM
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I've seen a white tiger that looked like that at either the San Diego Zoo or the San Diego animal park (I forget which) and the explanation given there was that it was a deformity caused by inbreeding.

Edit: The particular tiger in the photos above was named Kenny and lived at the Turpentine Creek Wildlife Refuge.

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Old 24 June 2010, 08:54 PM
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Wow. He looks like a Pug. Poor guy!
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Old 24 June 2010, 08:59 PM
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There is a lot of inbreeding required to produce white tigers, since it is a recessive gene and rare. They are very often unhealthy.

But what does that matter? People think they are pretty.
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Old 24 June 2010, 09:07 PM
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I did a quick Google search. The images are linked to several pages discussing inbreeding in white tigers.

Bigcatrescue.

A PDF flier linked from the site includes one of the photos. The flier discusses inbreeding & cross breeding big cats & the resulting deformities.

ETA: geminilee types faster then me.
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Old 24 June 2010, 09:27 PM
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I keep thinking about the poor tiger in the pics. I wonder what the extent of his health problems are/were. I am positive that he had the breathing problems associated with pugs, bulldogs, shi tzus, and other flat nosed animals who are supposed to have a muzzle. The wide eyes do look like Down's, but do animals get that? Does it indicate (in him) a lesser intelligence? How would you asses that in tigers?

I really should learn to stay away from these threads about animal abuse and mistreatment. My mind can never let go of it afterwards.
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Old 24 June 2010, 11:49 PM
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A local zoo had a white tiger for a short time before it was mauled to death by one of the normal tigers. Anecdotally, it was not particularly intelligent as tigers go (hence how it came to be mauled).
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There is a lot of inbreeding required to produce white tigers, since it is a recessive gene and rare. They are very often unhealthy.

But what does that matter? People think they are pretty.
Drove me nuts at the, awww shoot-which casino is it? With Siefried and Roy??

Anyhows, at their tiger exhibit, there's all the plaques talking about their "conservation efforts" and how, without their tireless conservation, the rare white tiger would have certainly died out.

As if it's a separate species, and not a mutation of the current species.
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Old 26 June 2010, 05:21 AM
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The "it's a breed perpetuated by people, not a species" is something I stress on my web pages. Along with a couple of contacts around the globe (at least one of whom is ex zoo staff) I've been working through the white tiger literature to put together info and genealogy. The latter shows hopeless inbreeding - on the one hand it has produced the stripeless white form (there's about 3 generations of brother-sister matings leading to that one!) and on the other hand it's produced the brachygnathic tiger mentioned in this thread - all due to recessive genes doubling up and other genes turning up in combinations that are unlikely to occur in a diverse gene pool.

http://www.messybeast.com/genetics/tigers-white.htm
http://www.messybeast.com/genetics/tigers-white2.htm
If you're interested.

Our genealogy trailing has managed to identify the probable origin/carriers/interaction of a couple of the mutant genes.
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