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Old 07 June 2010, 07:58 PM
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Cheer Send the homeless to Hawaii

Comment: i live in hawaii and there is a strong rumor that other states
encourage or give homeless a one way ticket to hawaii because of our warm
weather and great climate. can you confirm this rumor?
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Old 07 June 2010, 08:12 PM
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Hey, I know some people who need a new place to stay.
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Old 07 June 2010, 10:48 PM
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But I thought California was good for the homeless...

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Old 08 June 2010, 02:36 AM
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But I thought California was good for the homeless...
They certainly are all over the place. At least in the San Diego area.
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Old 08 June 2010, 03:04 PM
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Wouldn't a one-way bus/rail ticket to Florida or California be cheaper?
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Old 08 June 2010, 03:18 PM
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After you factored in all the litigation expenses, probably none of the solutions are particularly workable. Or moral.
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Old 08 June 2010, 03:27 PM
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Wouldn't a one-way bus/rail ticket to Florida or California be cheaper?
Yes, but then they can turn around and get a bus ticket back. If you send them to Hawaii, they're stuck. So they're not your problem anymore.
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Old 08 June 2010, 03:27 PM
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Wouldn't a one-way bus/rail ticket to Florida or California be cheaper?
But they might hitchhike or ride the rails back and be a problem again. Better to send them off to a remote island. Look how well that worked for Australia.

ETA: Not a spanking as I proposed different means of travel.
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Old 08 June 2010, 03:38 PM
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I've heard that overcrowded boxcars are the best means of transporting large numbers of unwanted peoples across a continent. Of course, it'd be tricky to get them to Hawaii using trains. Hmm, somebody get IBM back on the case!
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Old 08 June 2010, 06:40 PM
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But they might hitchhike or ride the rails back and be a problem again. Better to send them off to a remote island. Look how well that worked for Australia.
Ahhh.... I hadn't thought of that part.

What about Puerto Rico then? At least for the East Coast homeless it'd be much closer.

Now what island would work for those Midwestern homeless?

Now that I think about it....I think...why yes.....I do believe that I'm homeless...YEAH! THAT'S THE TICKET!! WHERE'S MY PLANE TICKET TO HAWAII?!?
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Old 08 June 2010, 06:58 PM
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Now that I think about it....I think...why yes.....I do believe that I'm homeless...YEAH! THAT'S THE TICKET!! WHERE'S MY PLANE TICKET TO HAWAII?!?
I agree. How long do I have to camp out before they box me up and send me to Oahu?
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Old 08 June 2010, 07:07 PM
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After you factored in all the litigation expenses, probably none of the solutions are particularly workable. Or moral.
I believe the UL is that the homeless were being offered the one way trip to Hawaii, not forced to take it. They would have pleasant weather almost all the time, and they could live off Hawaii's support system. Making it a free choice avoids litigation (until Hawaii has proof, then it seeks an injunction)

Here in the Atlanta area, the offer was a one-way ticket to Guam, until the tipping-over problem was revealed.

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Old 08 June 2010, 07:15 PM
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This problem has an easy solution, push em across the border into Mexico (when the Mexicans aren't looking) and then let the walls and the minutemen keep them there.
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Old 08 June 2010, 09:25 PM
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We could send them to Canada, label it as a preasent, Canada is polite (or so I'm told) I doubt they'd return them.

On a (slightly) more serious note, I've heard this UL for a long, long time (though the destination changes occationally, always someplace both far away and comparatively pleasent (from a homeless perspective at least).

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Old 08 June 2010, 09:33 PM
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On a (slightly) more serious note, I've heard this UL for a long, long time (though the destination changes occationally, always someplace both far away and comparatively pleasent (from a homeless perspective at least).
Urban legend experts probably class it with the tales of food stamps being used to buy gormet steaks.
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Old 09 June 2010, 12:05 AM
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Doesn't it rain a lot in Hawaii?
That said, I found the O.P. to be far-fetched.
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They certainly are all over the place. At least in the San Diego area.
I heard the city govenment gives cash hand outs in San Francisco....
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Doesn't it rain a lot in Hawaii?
That said, I found the O.P. to be far-fetched.
The times when I was in Waikiki and it rained, the homeless people would gather under the shelters at the beach.

I noticed a lot of homeless people when I was in Hawaii, a lot more than I've seen anywhere else. Maybe they have a bigger homeless population. But Hawaii also has nice weather year-round, so the homeless are more visible. I imagine so many tourists means the homeless are more visible due to begging, etc (though to be fair, I was only approached twice -- I've been approached more times in places like Lincoln, NE).

MB mentioned hearing this UL before and actually, I think I remember hearing it, too, when I was little, though I can't remember the particulars.

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Old 11 June 2010, 06:32 AM
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This one isn't totally without merit...

NYC homeless moving to Florida

My folks live in Florida and complained about Bloomberg threatening to send all of NY's homeless to the state. I remembered hearing about a story where NYC was willing to foot the bill to send homeless people home, maybe if they were originally from Florida or California and ended up in NY for some reason.
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What about Puerto Rico then? At least for the East Coast homeless it'd be much closer.
If I were even *thinking* I might end up homeless, that's where I'd head. The average temperature is pleasant and doesn't vary from season to season, and you would have a hard time avoiding food hanging off trees and random chickens running through the street.
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