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Old 24 May 2010, 05:26 PM
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Comment: 1,000 ton of steel - $3.4 million dollars

concrete - $4.1 million dollars

Manpower to build a new bridge - $2.7 million dollars

Building a bridge from two different sides and have it not meet in the middle - Priceless!

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Old 24 May 2010, 06:03 PM
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That image looks like it's a CGI.
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Old 24 May 2010, 07:47 PM
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Never mind that a real bridge wouldn't have two supports that close, anyway.

Heck, *I* could photoshop that.
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Old 24 May 2010, 08:05 PM
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I'm sure we've seen this one before and it was a fake.
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Old 24 May 2010, 08:18 PM
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Then there was a real bridge in El Paso that was built 12" too low.

I was in a car with a group of civil engineers with a company different from mine coming back from a TxDOT meeting. I mentioned this bridge in El Paso and it got very quiet in the car. I then realized it had been their company that designed the bridge. One remarked "It was only 6" too low." Another said, "And those guys don't work for us any more." I did not have to walk back to Dallas.
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Old 24 May 2010, 10:39 PM
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The guy that's pointing on the bridge isn't explaining why the two sections missed each other. He's explaining the 118 man hours that occurred putting that last support beam in place tying the two spans together, even after it was abundantly clear that something wasn't right.

In serious alignment challenges, like a suspension bridge, the engineers often calculate the time of day when the two segments will be in alignment so the final attachment can be made. Most of the time the two segments won't be in alignment.
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Old 24 May 2010, 11:33 PM
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It looks less like CGI and more like toys. The people are clearly not real people and the cars look like matchbox-type cars.
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Old 24 May 2010, 11:40 PM
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It looks less like CGI and more like toys. The people are clearly not real people and the cars look like matchbox-type cars.
I'm in no way saying this is real but I will say that certain types of very real photography and after affects can give that affect. Tilt-shift photography for one. Real train. (if these look familiar to some it's because I saved them from a discussion we had on the subject)
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Old 25 May 2010, 12:18 AM
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There is a real misaligned (and uncompleted) bridge in Cape Town.

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&hq=&...04823&t=k&z=18

I was told by a tour operator that it is now rented out for filming, but I couldn't find any online sources to confirm this.
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Old 25 May 2010, 02:46 AM
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There is a real misaligned (and uncompleted) bridge in Cape Town.

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&hq=&...04823&t=k&z=18

I was told by a tour operator that it is now rented out for filming, but I couldn't find any online sources to confirm this.
It's not actually misaligned, just unfinished. The idea that it's misaligned is one of two urban legends explaining why it wasn't completed; the other one is that a small shop occupied the location where one of the bridge pillars would have to go, and the owner refused to sell - which is a silly idea, because the SA government of the 1970's wouldn't have hesitated to expropriate the property.

The bridges are indeed used for filming - you can see that the one here has been recently painted with road markings to be used in a film. There's an interesting blog post here which includes a picture of a car ramping off one of the bridges.
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Old 25 May 2010, 05:02 AM
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It's not actually misaligned, just unfinished. The idea that it's misaligned is one of two urban legends explaining why it wasn't completed; the other one is that a small shop occupied the location where one of the bridge pillars would have to go, and the owner refused to sell - which is a silly idea, because the SA government of the 1970's wouldn't have hesitated to expropriate the property.
Ah, OK. I got the misaligned story from a tour operator. Is it actually known why it wasn't completed?
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Old 26 May 2010, 03:50 AM
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In serious alignment challenges, like a suspension bridge, the engineers often calculate the time of day when the two segments will be in alignment so the final attachment can be made. Most of the time the two segments won't be in alignment.
When the Gateway Arch was being built back in the '60s, the south leg got a lot more direct sunlight than the north leg did, so it would expand more each day. The engineers knew this would be a problem when they got to the top, so they decided to install the final piece in the middle of the night. The mayor, however, wanted it done in the middle of the day to make a big publicity event out of it. They compromised by doing it in the early morning.

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Old 26 May 2010, 04:27 AM
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Ah, OK. I got the misaligned story from a tour operator. Is it actually known why it wasn't completed?
Basically, because it was unnecessary for the amount of traffic involved. On this map, the red marker is where the "missing link" would be; it would have connected the elevated section of Western Boulevard with the elevated section of the N2 freeway. As you can see from the map it would only have served the row of suburbs from Green Point to Bantry Bay; anyone going further south would use the Kloof Nek Road anyway. So it didn't make economic sense to build a whole massive elevated freeway to carry a pretty small amount of traffic.

There were also aesthetic considerations; the N2 elevated freeway already cuts the city centre off almost entirely from the harbour and the sea. Completing the link would have made that even worse.

More recently, the development of the V&A Waterfront (marked "Waterfront" on the map) as a major shopping precinct, and now also construction of the new stadium for the Soccer World Cup, has made traffic in the area much heavier, so the idea of completing the bridges has come back. But these days, most of the City's transport money is going towards creating a decent system of public transport, so it's not likely to happen.
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