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Old 29 April 2010, 03:43 AM
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Mouse Is sodium fluoride used as rat poison?

I just watched a video by a conspiracy theory guy about how fluoridation of public drinking water is an evil scam. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRkDM...eature=related

At about 1:04 he says:

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"If you go to any hardware store and look at any rat poison product, you will only find one ingredient: Sodium fluoride."
I've actually looked at more than one rat poison product (including some of the ones the video author pictured when he said rat poison is sodium fluoride) and they mostly contain the ingredients listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodenti...nous_chemicals

Neither the Wiki article nor any product I've seen uses sodium fluoride as a rat poison.

This site, which doesn't appear to have any axe to grind, says that NaFl can be used as an insecticide: http://www.traderscity.com/board/pro...pplier-116453/

Is it ever used as rat poison?
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Old 29 April 2010, 03:51 AM
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I can't find anything about fluoride being in rat poison (or at least nothing reputable) but I don't see that it matters if it were. The drug I am on (warfarin) is apparently pretty common in rat poison. Water will kill you if you ingest enough of it in a short time. The dose makes the poison.
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Old 29 April 2010, 08:32 AM
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The drug I am on (warfarin) is apparently pretty common in rat poison.
To quote a friend of mine: "I give rat poison to my patients".
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Old 29 April 2010, 11:23 AM
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Even if sodium fluoride is used in rat poison, what is poisonous to one species is well tolerated by another (some human painkillers are used in poisoning feral cats).
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Old 29 April 2010, 12:45 PM
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To quote a friend of mine: "I give rat poison to my patients".
My first hematologist was the one who informed me he was giving me rat poison.
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Old 29 April 2010, 01:03 PM
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Sodium fluoride is not listed in the 2010 Crop Protection Handbook, one of the primary references for pesticides. However, sodium fluoroacetate is listed as a rodenticide and sodium fluorosilicate is listed as an insecticide.
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Old 29 April 2010, 01:15 PM
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They both have "sodium" and "fluoro-". Obviously they are the same thing.

Actually, I would not be at all surprised to find out that that is the source of the rumor.
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Even if sodium fluoride is used in rat poison, what is poisonous to one species is well tolerated by another (some human painkillers are used in poisoning feral cats).
And in an even more common example; chocolate & grapes are toxic to dogs, but that doesn't mean that the people who sell those things to people are trying to poison us.
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Old 30 April 2010, 06:26 AM
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They both have "sodium" and "fluoro-". Obviously they are the same thing.

Actually, I would not be at all surprised to find out that that is the source of the rumor.
I was thinking about that earlier.

I'm going to go out and start a rumor that they're putting rat poison in the water supply because more than 99% of the world's water supply today contains hydrogen, an element also found in the rat poison tetrahydronaphthalen. This hydrogen contamination now befouls the drinking water of every nation on the planet.
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