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Old 30 March 2010, 06:30 PM
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Default Gun control yard sign

I've seen this one before, but I can't find it here:

Comment: Ralph, My neighbor is a "lefty" of sorts (Obama bumper stickers,
gung-ho socialized medicine, "guns should be banned", etc.). So last week
I put this sign up in my yard after one of his anti-gun rants at a neighborhood
cocktail party.

The sign wasn't up more than an hour before he called the police and
wanted them to make me take down the sign.

Fortunately, the officer politely informed him that it was not their job to
take such action without a court order and that he had to file a complaint
"downtown" first, which would be reviewed by the city attorney to see if
it violated any city, county, or state ordinances, which if there was a
violation a court order would be sent to the offending party (me) to
"remove the sign in seven days".

After several weeks he was informed that the sign was legal (by a
quarter of an inch) and there was nothing the city could do, which
obviously made him madder.

I tried to smooth things over by inviting him to go shooting with me and
my friends at the hunt club but that seemed to make him even more
angry. I then asked him if he wanted to go to a Tea Party rally but again
he declined my outreach efforts to bring about a better understanding
between political and social opponents.

I am at a loss how to reconcile our long relationship (notice I did not say
friendship), any suggestions would be welcome.

Anyway, that's life in our neck of the woods, how's about yours?

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Old 30 March 2010, 06:35 PM
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I think that the sign is edited in; it's an exact rectangle, to the pixel.
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Old 30 March 2010, 06:47 PM
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If I had a beautifully manicured lawn like that, I wouldn't want to deface it by pounding an ugly-ass sign into it. YMMV, of course.

I agree that the sign looks edited-in.
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Old 30 March 2010, 07:18 PM
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I tried to smooth things over by inviting him to go shooting with me and
my friends at the hunt club
Is this the smartest way of happying up someone with a strong anti-gun stance? Wouldn't taking him out for a couple of beers or inviting hime over for a pizza have been a better notion?
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Old 30 March 2010, 07:23 PM
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I wouldn't care if my neighbor put up that sign. I doubt it would raise by chances of being burgled one iota.

I might put up one that says, "My neighbor will be on vacation April 6-20 and has a valuable collection of firearms" though.
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Old 30 March 2010, 07:24 PM
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Is this the smartest way of happying up someone with a strong anti-gun stance? Wouldn't taking him out for a couple of beers or inviting hime over for a pizza have been a better notion?
You're asking for a lot of rationality for what is essentially a photoshop troll. The sign has tell-tale pixel markings around the edges. Photoshop. I will also add that people who write these sort of missives from the safety of their computer are almost never as aggressive in real likfe. Occassionally, they're also more rational or at least fake it better. So it's likely gun nut's neighbor has no idea what gun nut's stance on gun control is.
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Old 30 March 2010, 07:38 PM
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Yeah I realised we'd tossed the photo out of the window; I was just making fun of the writer.
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Old 30 March 2010, 07:39 PM
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Is this the smartest way of happying up someone with a strong anti-gun stance? Wouldn't taking him out for a couple of beers or inviting hime over for a pizza have been a better notion?
I'm very much pro gun control, but I'd have gone shooting. Especially if somebody was bringing something automatic. Oh, just let me get my hands on one of those mini-guns and watch my inner conservative emerge!


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Old 30 March 2010, 07:42 PM
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Is this the smartest way of happying up someone with a strong anti-gun stance? Wouldn't taking him out for a couple of beers or inviting hime over for a pizza have been a better notion?
I think that was meant as deliberate passive aggression.
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Old 30 March 2010, 08:10 PM
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See, I'm a lefty libreral commusocialist canuck, and I'd have taken the offer to go shooting. The thing is, even though the gun culture scares me and I really don't think we need to turn downtown streets into a scene from a bad western, I actually quite enjoy shooting as a sport.
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Old 30 March 2010, 09:15 PM
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I'd take up the offer to go shooting. The entire hunt club would probably be pro gun control after a few stray bullets!
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Old 30 March 2010, 10:01 PM
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See, I'm a lefty libreral commusocialist canuck, and I'd have taken the offer to go shooting. The thing is, even though the gun culture scares me and I really don't think we need to turn downtown streets into a scene from a bad western, I actually quite enjoy shooting as a sport.
Gun owner and liberal/lefty aren't a common shared trait, but I don't think there is anything inherently incompatible or condradictory in the two concepts. Obviously conservative right wing groups like the NRA and the Gun Owners of America tend to hog most of the spotlight, but they are a surprising number of liberal organizations that support either handguns for use in personal defense and/or shooting sports. I've met more then a few people of the liberal slant that see responsible firearm use in a positive light.

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Old 30 March 2010, 10:12 PM
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Gun owner and liberal/lefty aren't a common shared trait, but I don't think there is nothing inherently incompatible or condradictory in the two concepts.
Come visit us up here. Our state legislators and staff have an annual shooting competition which the far-right gun nut members of the legislature don't like to talk about, because liberal democrats keep winning.

Yes, most of the left-wing liberals up here support sensible gun control, but most of us also own guns. It's only an uncommon shared trait up here because there's relatively few of us liberals to start with.
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Old 30 March 2010, 11:13 PM
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For full disclosure. You mostly know my views on the private ownership of guns.

On my last visit to the US on an arranged outing I did fire a variety of weapons at innocent paper targets in an enclosed range under the very firm eye of an instructor. Yes I enjoyed it because it's something I'll never (legally) get to do in my country. Yes the power of those things in my hand made me feel macho.

I still don't think you should be allowed to take one home and keep it under your bed. Am I a hypocrite?
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Old 30 March 2010, 11:36 PM
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I wanted to go to one of those gun places but I would have to get a gun. Apparently here they don't rent you guns, you have to bring your own. Since I would be going mostly for the experience I am not interested in becoming a licensed gun owner.
I don't think I could get the kind of gun I'd want to fire anyway. I wanted to fire something like a Glock, not a hunting rifle.
But then, I admit to being woefully ignorant of Canada's gun laws, since I have no intention of owning one. All my knowledge comes from little brother, who has entered the reserves. And thinks I should get a gun. Don't ask me why - maybe because then we could add going to shooting ranges together to the list of things we do.

We may not have a normal relationship, but it works for us.
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Old 31 March 2010, 12:37 AM
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As a liberal, I also own and enjoy shooting guns. I was at the store the other week buying a shotgun since my wife entered us in a sporting clays tournament. (I think even PETA would approve of my shooting at live birds instead of clays. ) A guy came in to look at 9mm semi-automatic hand guns for home defence. Both the salesman and I tried to convince him that a 20 gage pump shotgun would be both safer and more effective.
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Old 31 March 2010, 05:46 AM
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"Oh Barry what on earth is that poof's gun you've got there?"
"This is a 20 bore over and under."
"It's a sporty little item, but personally I prefer a twelve bore."
"I don't mind missing one or two pheasants provided that occasionaly I can get a quick kill."
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Old 31 March 2010, 05:57 AM
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"I don't mind missing one or two pheasants provided that occasionaly I can get a quick kill."
I keep reading this as peasants, which is a whole other concept.

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Old 31 March 2010, 07:47 AM
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Is this the smartest way of happying up someone with a strong anti-gun stance? Wouldn't taking him out for a couple of beers or inviting hime over for a pizza have been a better notion?
I'm in a gun club in Australia, and as part of my license I must attend a safety and legality lecture (day long). But the comment was made by the lecturer that we should invite those not keen, or even opposed to guns, to the club so that they could see we weren't all bullet blasting yobbos, and that shooting is a legitimate sport.

But I should point out that owning a gun for personal protection is not a permitted reason to own here, and will be knocked back with very few exceptions, such as cash transit drivers and some security guards.

One of the requirements here for weapons is that you must not advertise the fact that you own them. They must be stored in a safe out of sight. Transport must be in locked unmarked metal boxes. Putting up such a sign here would get you a visit from the boys in blue (or brown) who might confiscate them until you come to your senses.

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Old 31 March 2010, 08:06 AM
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I take that that might be a good idea, but if the neighbours had fallen out so badly over gun control wouldn't it be a good idea to "build bridges" first by inviting the neighbour over for a coffee or something a couple of times then politely slip into the conversation "Hey Ralph, I know you don't much care for guns, but why don't you come down to the gun club with us next Saturday and see what we get up to? If you are still opposed we'll agree to disagree." rather than making the invitation to go shooting the first attempt at appeasement?

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