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Old 11 March 2010, 07:13 PM
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Comment: Man Builds Noah's Ark to the exact scale given in the Bible

The massive central door in the side of Noah's Ark was opened the first
crowd of curious townsfolk to behold the wonder. This replica of the
biblical Ark was built by Dutch Creationist Johan Huibers as a testament
to his faith in the literal truth of the Bible.

The ark is 150 cubits long, 30 cubits high and 20 cubits wide. That's
two-thirds the length of a football field and as high as a three-story house.

Life-sized models of giraffes, elephants, lions, crocodiles, zebras, bison
and other animals greet visitors as they arrive in the main hold.

A contractor by trade, Huibers built the ark of cedar and pine. Biblical
Scholars debate exactly what the wood used by Noah would have been.

Huibers did the work mostly with his own hands, using modern tools and
with occasional help from his son Roy. Construction began in May 2005.
On the uncovered top deck - not quite ready in time for the opening - will
come a petting zoo, with baby lambs and chickens, and goats, and one
camel.

Visitors on the first day were stunned. 'It's past comprehension', said
Mary Louise Starosciak, who happened to be bicycling by with her husband
while on vacation when they saw the ark looming over the local
landscape.

'I knew the story of Noah, but I had no idea the boat would have been
so big ' There is enough space near the keel for a 50-seat film theater
where kids can watch a video that tells the story of Noah and his ark.
Huibers, a Christian man, said he hopes the project will renew interest in
Christianity in the Netherlands, where church going has fallen dramatically
in the past 50 years.

Now that I am old and gray...give me the time to tell this new generation
(and their children too) about all your mighty miracles.

(Psalm 71:18)















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Old 11 March 2010, 07:24 PM
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It seems to be true although a little out-dated - it opened in 2007. Also it is scaled to half the size described in the Bible. No idea how well it did/is doing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6604879.stm

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The next day, I found a book about Noah's Ark in the local bookshop
Was this book called "The Bible" by any chance?

Wheras I give no credence to the story of Noah, good luck to the bloke and all power to his elbow. It is an impressive piece of work. I don't believe that it is possible (as yet) to travel to Mars and back in half an hour, but that did not stop me enjoying the "Travel To Mars and Back" attraction in Southwark.

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Old 11 March 2010, 07:27 PM
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... and the absolute absurdity of taking the Biblical story of the Noahian Deluge at face value becomes immediately and shockingly clear. Right?

But yeah it's true. The replica is in Schagen, the Netherlands, built by Dutch Creationist Johan Huibers.

News Article: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,269090,00.html
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Old 12 March 2010, 06:46 AM
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OK, let's just for the sake of argument say that he did manage to prove that all the animals would fit in that boat. Where would he keep the food for them?

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On the uncovered top deck - not quite ready in time for the opening - will
come a petting zoo, with baby lambs and chickens, and goats, and one
camel.
Shouldn't there be two camels?
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Old 12 March 2010, 04:53 PM
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Literal really means literal with mr. Huibers, in whose universe the Sun still revolves around the Earth.

He is building a real-size replica now, which should be ready in 2012. Pictures here.
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Old 12 March 2010, 07:26 PM
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OK, let's just for the sake of argument say that he did manage to prove that all the animals would fit in that boat. Where would he keep the food for them?



Shouldn't there be two camels?
There were two camels but the lions ate one. Hence answering both your questions.

Yes I've always wondered about the food thing. Also the guy does seem to have a rather limited number of species on board compared to the many thousands if not millions of creatures that require constant dry land that we see today - even allowing for the fact his ship is smaller than Noah's and the bow section has been converted into a cinema.
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Old 12 March 2010, 08:28 PM
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The Hebrew word used in the narrative in Genesis does not mean the whole world. It means "the land." Sort of like one might say today, "And there was great rejoicing in all the land." It's sort of ambiguous about how much land is all the land.

They were to bring seven each of all the clean animals, and two of the unclean, a part of the story very often neglected. Giraffes are kosher; if Noah did include giraffes he would have had seven of them.
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Old 12 March 2010, 10:17 PM
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If the replica Ark is only half size then that would mean the real Ark (if it existed) would have had eight times the volume of that one. As we don't know exactly how many animals had to fit into it then it may well have had enough room for them all. Would giraffes have been in the Ark?
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Old 12 March 2010, 10:27 PM
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Would giraffes have been in the Ark?
Yep - Here's the proof.
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Old 12 March 2010, 10:43 PM
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If the replica Ark is only half size then that would mean the real Ark (if it existed) would have had eight times the volume of that one. As we don't know exactly how many animals had to fit into it then it may well have had enough room for them all. Would giraffes have been in the Ark?
Well since evolution is a complete nonsense , it would have had to have accommodated the requisite number of pairs of all the animals we can see today. Plus stuff like DoDo's that are now extinct.

I don't have the slightest clue how many species of animals there are extant on Earth though. Best guess - a lot more than would fit in a boat eight times the volume of the replica. Not to mention the problem of keeping the predators away from the prey.

I also reckon Noah and his family had a lot of mucking out to do on the voyage.
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Just west of where I grew up was a Noah's ark restaurant. The building was shaped like the boat and there were lots of big fiberglass animals around it. Coming home from a long trip we knew we were almost home when we saw this place. Seeing these pictures was strangely comforting
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Old 12 March 2010, 11:22 PM
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Just west of where I grew up was a Noah's ark restaurant. The building was shaped like the boat and there were lots of big fiberglass animals around it. Coming home from a long trip we knew we were almost home when we saw this place. Seeing these pictures was strangely comforting
I remember that restaurant! (I grew up in St. Louis). I think they had giraffe swizzle sticks in the soft drinks that I thought were cool at the time.

Getting back to the OP: I'll be more impressed of he builds a full size replica that floats without breaking up or taking water.

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Old 12 March 2010, 11:22 PM
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... and the absolute absurdity of taking the Biblical story of the Noahian Deluge at face value becomes immediately and shockingly clear. Right?
Nuh uh. The Bibical ark had enough room for at least a giraffe and a couple of elephants, and the rest are basically all squeaky critters who could fit in between, right? That's how the wholesome imagery depicts the story and that's how many will literally translate it. Giraffes, elephants, a couple of possums, some birds flitting about... you know what the natural world is like! The fact that it is even half plausible to build a vessel that encompasses some of the species of today must mean that the Biblical story of the ark is real. How else can wholesome god-fearing people disprove science?
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Well since evolution is a complete nonsense, it would have had to have accommodated the requisite number of pairs of all the animals we can see today. Plus stuff like DoDo's that are now extinct.
Why, though? Couldn't God just make new animals after the flood waters receded? Did He lose the recipe book or something?
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Old 13 March 2010, 01:22 AM
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If he could, then why bother with the ark at all?
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Old 13 March 2010, 02:22 AM
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First it is only 2 of every living thing.

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Gen 6:19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.
Then later God wants 7 of the clean beast and 2 of everything else.

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Gen 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.
Shouldn't an ark be black in color if the instruction were followed.

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Gen 6:14 Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.
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Oh and don't forget that if the story is literally true than there was a global flood and somehow Noah had to be able to deposit all of the marsupials in Australia.
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Old 13 March 2010, 04:51 AM
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Oh and don't forget that if the story is literally true than there was a global flood and somehow Noah had to be able to deposit all of the marsupials in Australia.
Emphasis mine.
Is that why we have Opossum in North America?

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Old 13 March 2010, 04:56 AM
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Emphasis mine.
Is that why we have Opossum in North America?

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You are correct on that point but that still leaves a question of how they got too and from the Ark and North America. Noah's Ark began and ended it's journey in the middle east, far from the Americas.
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Old 13 March 2010, 05:20 AM
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You are correct on that point but that still leaves a question of how they got too and from the Ark and North America. Noah's Ark began and ended it's journey in the middle east, far from the Americas.
For me that question is easy: There was no Noah, Ark, or animals on the ark to move, place, misplace, whether in the middle east, North America, or Antarctica for that matter. There was likely no god telling the mythical Noah to move the animals or destroying the world with a flood, but that's just my ansewer.

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