Homeopathy is "the bomb"

[ElectricBarbarella]

(and you will get the title if you watch the video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0c5yClip4o
(haven't figured out how to embed)

Anyway, Dr. Warner is basically using Physics to explain how we can contain all the mass of the entire universe into a bowling ball and that all it takes to heal is H2O, a re-write of Einstein's "E=mc2" (where the mass cancels out), and you can make a poop bomb to exact revenge on your neighbors for letting their dogs poop in your yard.

And all of this is used to explain why homeopathy works over physics and medical science.




(and no, I am not a believer in homeopathy. Yes, I would give birth with dolphins present, but that's because it's cool )

[Floater]

Originally Posted by ElectricBarbarella

(haven't figured out how to embed)

It's easy.You just copy the text in the window marked "embed" and paste it in your post.

[ElectricBarbarella]

I was thinking there was something special with this type of board that had to be done first and I did not know that special thing.

[Nick Theodorakis]

Originally Posted by ElectricBarbarella

I was thinking there was something special with this type of board that had to be done first and I did not know that special thing.

There is, but that's done by the site admin (in this case, snopes), not by you.

Nick

[ElectricBarbarella]

Originally Posted by Nick Theodorakis

There is, but that's done by the site admin (in this case, snopes), not by you.

Nick

Right got that. But on some boards, one has to click a button to get a code thingy to come up.

Anyway:

[Johnny Slick]

Someone set up us the homeopathy.

[Cure the Blues]

Steven Hawkings?!?


*click to embiggen*

[Tarquin Farquart]

That video was Awesome! It is a joke, right?

[sneeze042]

Originally Posted by Tarquin Farquart

That video was Awesome! It is a joke, right?

lord almighty, I hope it is. Sure we'll all made of energy, but it's not as simple as they make it sound. How would they treat a virus that does massive damage to cells and to the body? I bet she only dares to do "simple" things such as fixing a squeaky knee (btw that story was bull).

[ElectricBarbarella]

I WISH it was a joke.

No, I first heard of it on Pharyngula. I brought it here. If you search her in you tube, you will find others like her.

It may be true that the entire mass of the universe is the size of a bowling ball, but as DH said, "she's crazy".

[Sister Ray]

Originally Posted by Cure the Blues

Steven Hawkings?!?


*click to embiggen*

He apparently invented string theory. Funny how I've never heard of him.

Did anyone else catch the line about the cell walls of human beings?

Sister "that video sucked any intelligence out of me, and it didn't take long" Ray

[ElectricBarbarella]

The only thing, that I can see, that she got correct, was what the theory of relative means and that the mass of the universe can fit into a bowling ball.

Everything else, according to DH, makes absolutely no sense whatsoever and is not factual. It's almost as if she spliced a little bit of fact (einstein) with a whole lot of bunk and made it sound good.

[ganzfeld]

Originally Posted by ElectricBarbarella

The only thing, that I can see, that she got correct, was what the theory of relative means and that the mass of the universe can fit into a bowling ball.

The statement about the bowling ball doesn't mean anything at all. It's true that the universe expanded from what is thought to be a very small point but the "mass" of the universe isn't something that can be determined from without and the matter of the universe at that "size" is nothing at all like the matter of the universe we live in. It's really just a mathematical construct meant to describe the little we know about the universe when we put the video on "rewind". Her next claim, about this meaning that the energy can be "crossed out" is silly because, well, all of the energy of the universe was also a tiny dot at one time. (And there really isn't any way to distinguish the two at that level, as far as I know.)

I'm not sure what, if anything, she got right about relativity. Maybe the E=mc2 part but at her level of understanding, like the universe as a bowling ball, there's no way to distinguish sheer ignorance from utter stupidity.

[ElectricBarbarella]

Originally Posted by ganzfeld

The statement about the bowling ball doesn't mean anything at all. It's true that the universe expanded from what is thought to be a very small point but the "mass" of the universe isn't something that can be determined from without and the matter of the universe at that "size" is nothing at all like the matter of the universe we live in. It's really just a mathematical construct meant to describe the little we know about the universe when we put the video on "rewind". Her next claim, about this meaning that the energy can be "crossed out" is silly because, well, all of the energy of the universe was also a tiny dot at one time. (And there really isn't any way to distinguish the two at that level, as far as I know.)

I'm not sure what, if anything, she got right about relativity. Maybe the E=mc2 part but at her level of understanding, like the universe as a bowling ball, there's no way to distinguish sheer ignorance from utter stupidity.

That was my point--she got it correct but it means nothing to the point she was trying to make, which was a moot point anyway, but she sounded smart by making it sound like she knew what she was talking about.

[ganzfeld]

Originally Posted by ElectricBarbarella

That was my point--she got it correct but it means nothing to the point she was trying to make, which was a moot point anyway, but she sounded smart by making it sound like she knew what she was talking about.

Good point.

There's a good discussion of this over at Science Based Medicine blog.

[RivkahChaya]

There's something called "Reductio ad Hitlerum." I think it's legitimate Latin, that is, declined correctly, and it's used semi-jokingly as a logical fallacy (which it is, but it's not really part of formal logic; it's usually a special case of a red herring, an appeal to fear, or guilt by association). It means that if you can somehow associate your opponent's position with Hitler, then you can dismiss his whole argument with a handwave. Example: Hitler didn't eat meat, therefore being a vegetarian is horrible.

There must be some sort of converse, but I can't quite get the slogan together. It would be something like probio ad Einsteinium, or something. If you can work Einstein into your argument, you win.

[ganzfeld]

Originally Posted by RivkahChaya

TExample: Hitler didn't eat meat, therefore being a vegetarian is horrible.

Not to mention that "Hitler was a vegetarian" was nothing but propaganda (combined with quite a bit of urban legend).

[ElectricBarbarella]

I just read that link Ganz.. quite entertaining (the comments that is) and very informative.

[Cure the Blues]

Originally Posted by Sister Ray

Did anyone else catch the line about the cell walls of human beings

Dryadism, here I come .

[snoozn]

I mostly like living in liberal hippy-town, but I do get tired of being in a place where homeopathy seems accepted by lots and lots of people. Her argument is so clearly illogical. The universe doesn't have a lot of mass, so that's more or less the same as no mass and we'll just ignore it.
Well, a whisper is much closer (in volume) to silence than to a loud scream. So therefore a whisper is basically the same as a silence and if you sit across from me and think about a word, I should be about equally likely to hear that word as if you had whispered it. Hey, I just proved that ESP works!

Great link to the science-based medicine site. What a surprise that this woman also does vision therapy--another quackery that has been suggested to me by actual "professionals."