Felony charges for Cracker Barrel assault suspect

[Ryda Wong, EBfCo.]

http://www.ajc.com/news/clayton/felo...er-144818.html

Troy Dale West Jr., 47, was indicted Wednesday on charges of aggravated assault, false imprisonment, first degree cruelty to children, two counts of battery and two counts of disorderly conduct, Clayton County District Attorney Tracy Graham Lawson said.

Clayton County Superior Court Judge Geronda V. Carter issued a warrant for West Wednesday morning and then denied him bond.

West is charged with beating and kicking Tashawnea Hill as she walked out of the Morrow restaurant on Sept. 9. Hill's 7-year-old daughter watched as West assaulted her mother while yelling racial slurs, police said.

One of those slurs was ""You're an f*cking black n*gger b*tch"

Said in front of this woman's young daughter.

I am so very glad someone was convinced to take this as seriously as it warrents.

On a kinda funny note, his business is being flooded with negative reviews as a result of this:

http://www.merchantcircle.com/busine...e.229-776-0221

[AnglRdr]

Originally Posted by Ryda Wong, EBfCo.

http://www.ajc.com/news/clayton/felo...printArticle=y



One of those slurs was ""You're an f*cking black n*gger b*tch"

Said in front of this woman's young daughter.

I am so very glad someone was convinced to take this as seriously as it warrents.

Yeah, this was ridiculous when it was initially dismissed.

On a kinda funny note, his business is being flooded with negative reviews as a result of this:

http://www.merchantcircle.com/busine...e.229-776-0221

Some commenters do not seem to understand the star-rating concept, however.

Also, the language is

[A Turtle Named Mack]

Originally Posted by Ryda Wong, EBfCo.

One of those slurs was ""You're an f*cking black n*gger b*tch"

Said in front of this woman's young daughter.

That is appalling! In front of a seven-year-old, he used such bad grammar - the 'an' article should only be used when the following word starts with a vowel sound. Not only that his string of epithets was redundant. Throw the book at him.

[Sue Bee]

Originally Posted by A Turtle Named Mack

That is appalling! In front of a seven-year-old, he used such bad grammar - the 'an' article should only be used when the following word starts with a vowel sound. Not only that his string of epithets was redundant. Throw the book at him.

You meant this to be funny, I realize. But it isn't. Not. Even. Remotely.

[mags]

Originally Posted by Sue Bee

You meant this to be funny, I realize. But it isn't. Not. Even. Remotely.

Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

I thought it was funny.

[Sue Bee]

Originally Posted by mags

Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

I thought it was funny.

Yeah, I guess it is funny to joke about a thug's grammar when a woman is being heavily assaulted in front of her daughter, whilst the assaulter is spewing racial slurs. I need to check to see where the heck my sense of humor got to.

I shall be redundant -I find absolutely nothing to joke about in this scenario.

[Jay Temple]

Originally Posted by mags

Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

I thought it was funny.

Me, too. Mildly.

The FBI is looking into it as a "possible" hate crime. Ya think?

[A Turtle Named Mack]

Originally Posted by Sue Bee

Yeah, I guess it is funny to joke about a thug's grammar when a woman is being heavily assaulted in front of her daughter, whilst the assaulter is spewing racial slurs. I need to check to see where the heck my sense of humor got to.

I shall be redundant -I find absolutely nothing to joke about in this scenario.

Okay, the actual incident is not funny. The reportage around here shows versions going both ways, although the worst I have heard said against the woman is that she spat on the old man - a gross thing, to be sure, but still not deserving of a beatdown. To hear her side, the man came through the door and the door nearly hit her daughter, so she mildly asked him to be more watchful of children. There is reportedly a videotape which does not show a deliberate spitting motion, but one can imagine that she may have responded vociferously in a manner which caused some amount of spit to fly, and the man may have overreacted both to the uncivil words and the splatters, particularly if he had no way of knowing that the child was in the door's way. This would not justify his reaction, either the physical part or his choice of words in retort.

However, there have been more appalling situations than this discussed on the board which people have joked about.

Originally Posted by Jay Temple

The FBI is looking into it as a "possible" hate crime. Ya think?

Actually, it is unlikely, at least depending on the exact wording of the various 'hate crime' provisions. It's not as if he appears to have been looking to terrorize black people by singling one out for his violence. Something ticked him off and he responded very, very badly. He may even have taken being reprimanded by a black person worse because she was black; certainly his reported choice of words suggests that this was a factor. But there is no indication that he sought her out to victimize on the basis of race, age or whatever, as one would generally think of for a 'hate crimes' charge.

[Jahungo]

Originally Posted by Sue Bee

Yeah, I guess it is funny to joke about a thug's grammar when a woman is being heavily assaulted in front of her daughter, whilst the assaulter is spewing racial slurs. I need to check to see where the heck my sense of humor got to.

I shall be redundant -I find absolutely nothing to joke about in this scenario.

Some people's sense of humor is just darker than others. It may not be your taste, but I don't think it makes anyone a bad person or anything.

[DarkDan]

I believe he took the name of the establishment too seriously.

...Too soon?

[AnglRdr]

Originally Posted by A Turtle Named Mack

Actually, it is unlikely, at least depending on the exact wording of the various 'hate crime' provisions. It's not as if he appears to have been looking to terrorize black people by singling one out for his violence. Something ticked him off and he responded very, very badly. He may even have taken being reprimanded by a black person worse because she was black; certainly his reported choice of words suggests that this was a factor. But there is no indication that he sought her out to victimize on the basis of race, age or whatever, as one would generally think of for a 'hate crimes' charge.

This is comes from a cite at Religious Tolerance

a crime in which the defendant intentionally selects a victim, or in the case of a property crime, the property that is the object of the crime, because of the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, ethnicity, gender, disability, or sexual orientation of any person."

[Sue Bee]

Originally Posted by Jahungo

Some people's sense of humor is just darker than others. It may not be your taste, but I don't think it makes anyone a bad person or anything.

If you're telling me this, thanks, but I already knew this. If you're saying that I think that people are bad because their sense of humor doesn't jibe with mine, then you're incorrect.

I find it hard to find humor in hatred, especially when one person is victimized so tragically, and another is subjected to the kind of trauma that the daughter most certainly was.

[Jahungo]

Originally Posted by Sue Bee

If you're telling me this, thanks, but I already knew this. If you're saying that I think that people are bad because their sense of humor doesn't jibe with mine, then you're incorrect.

I find it hard to find humor in hatred, especially when one person is victimized so tragically, and another is subjected to the kind of trauma that the daughter most certainly was.

Maybe the "bad person" was a bit of hyperbole, but there was certainly condemnation of ATurtleNamedMack's joke in the sarcasm in your first post.

You are, of course, free to not find it funny. Beyond that, I'm not sure what your point is. It's taking humor out of an otherwise very serious situation, but I don't see anything actually offensive about his post.

[Ramblin' Dave]

Originally Posted by Jahungo

You are, of course, free to not find it funny. Beyond that, I'm not sure what your point is. It's taking humor out of an otherwise very serious situation, but I don't see anything actually offensive about his post.

Offensive? Debatable - though only because we know ATNM well enough to know he didn't really mean to trivialize what happened. Funny? No.

[effo5231]

Originally Posted by Ramblin' Dave

Offensive? Debatable - though only because we know ATNM well enough to know he didn't really mean to trivialize what happened. Funny? No.

Funny is as debatable as offensive though isn't it? Unless of course we've created an objective standard to measure humor and no one bothered to send me the memo of course.

[Roadie]

Originally Posted by Sue Bee

I find it hard to find humor in hatred, especially when one person is victimized so tragically, and another is subjected to the kind of trauma that the daughter most certainly was.

You do understand that ATNM was not finding humor "in hatred" but rather in an error made in the statement about the incident?

And, Dark Dan, might be too soon for some people, but not for me.

[Ramblin' Dave]

Originally Posted by effo5231

Funny is as debatable as offensive though isn't it? Unless of course we've created an objective standard to measure humor and no one bothered to send me the memo of course.

I was only expressing my personal opinion on both fronts.

[effo5231]

Originally Posted by Ramblin' Dave

I was only expressing my personal opinion on both fronts.

Ah... I read it as more of a statement of fact.