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Old 14 September 2009, 03:28 AM
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Icon95 Anyone suffer from snoring?

Since I've been on here, I've never hawked a product... until now.

I did a bad thing - and ordered an item from an infomercial that purported to stop snoring... and didn't ask my fellow snopesters about their experiences beforehand (like I did with colon cleansers!! Thanks, BTW!!). I decided to risk the $60 +shipping and handling as it has a 30 day money-back guarantee.

Other than the fact that I feel like I am sucking on a huge chunk of tasteless plastic, it isn't all that uncomfortable, even for me, who has a highly sensitive gag-reflex.

I just got a full report from my wife. She had to reach out to feel if I was even in bed with her - and this comes from the woman that has yelled at me several times a night for over 17 years to roll over and stop snoring. I don't snore at ALL!

My only complaint is that my jaw is ever-so-slightly out of joint in the morning, as the guard keeps the lower jaw distended as I sleep. Within a couple minutes, everything is back to normal. In the on-line propaganda I read, the biggest complaint was from folks waking in a puddle of drool (hence the thread icon!), but I sleep with my mouth shut, so I haven't even had that problem.

Well everything is normal except for me. I have been getting up to pee four or more times each night for years - until this past month. Now I am back to 8-hours or more of uninterrupted sleep... with no potty-breaks and I actually feel RESTED in the morning.

Has anyone else tried it? Any stories to share? Anyone with a BAD experience??? (hey snopes/mods, let me know if I broke any rules with this unpaid endorsement!!)
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Old 14 September 2009, 03:32 AM
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I suffer from my husband's snoring!

He has a CPAP that he doesn't wear (it gives him a sinus infection every time). When it's really bad, I wear industrial ear plugs.
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Old 14 September 2009, 03:42 AM
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My husband and I have been very tempted to try that product on the commercials as his snoring is just about ruining both our healths and he just will not go get a sleep study.

If you seem to think it works I might risk the 60 bucks and try it. I've blown 60 bucks on stupider things.
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Old 14 September 2009, 03:57 AM
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I sometimes snore (apparently - usually there's nobody about to tell me; on the odd occasions when there is, I've been kicked and punched and so on to wake me up.)

Which product is it? I don't always snore - although in the past I've even woken myself up on one or two occasions, and realised it was my own snoring that did so - but my sleep is sometimes interrupted by similar issues or breathing problems, even if they're not loud ones.

(I filled in a renewal form for a driving license recently, and one of the medical questions they now ask is whether you suffer from "sleep apnoea syndrome". I said "no", as of course you don't suffer from anything unless you've been formally diagnosed, but it made me wonder - mostly about the value of this sort of "syndrome", I must admit, but still. I assume they think you might fall asleep at the wheel if you snore, or something. I don't know what would happen if you answered "yes" to that question, and I wouldn't answer "yes" anyway... but, as I said, still...)
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Old 14 September 2009, 05:52 AM
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Haha. Yeah I wen't on holiday recently with a pal. To save money we shared a room.

I have never in my life heard such an ungodly noise. By about 4am on the first night, having had no sleep myself, I was on the verge of murdering him.
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Old 14 September 2009, 06:19 AM
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Oh, how's that for a truly crappy product endorsement??? I praise it but never mention the name!

Pure Sleep.

And in my opinion, well worth the investment. My beloved bride agrees.

Huge warnings before you set it up - they insist that you floss and brush and buff and wax and make your teeth the cleanest they've ever been before you fit the device.

You just adjust it (tab A into one pair of three-pairs of holes), then drop it into boiling water for 60 seconds. Pull it out (a fork works fine to hook it, but tongs would work as well - probably better), then let it sit for TEN seconds to cool (I shook the boiling water out of the crevasses. Then you put it in your mouth and bite down so the softened plastic creates an impression. It is hot enough that I thought, "OMG, THIS IS... well, not so hot that I have to spit it out and look for damage..."

Then use it nightly. The only "maintenance" I do is to brush it with toothpaste every week or so as I brush my teeth, then let it dry. And, no, I really do brush my teeth more often than just every week or so...

I have to say that having something like that in my mouth as I tried to sleep was difficult the first several nights. Now, it's kinda like socks... I notice them as I put them on, and in a couple seconds, forget about them. And, no, I don't put socks in my mouth!
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Old 14 September 2009, 07:05 AM
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Since I've been on here, I've never hawked a product... until now.

I did a bad thing - and ordered an item from an infomercial that purported to stop snoring... and didn't ask my fellow snopesters about their experiences beforehand (like I did with colon cleansers!! Thanks, BTW!!). I decided to risk the $60 +shipping and handling as it has a 30 day money-back guarantee.

Other than the fact that I feel like I am sucking on a huge chunk of tasteless plastic, it isn't all that uncomfortable, even for me, who has a highly sensitive gag-reflex.

I just got a full report from my wife. She had to reach out to feel if I was even in bed with her - and this comes from the woman that has yelled at me several times a night for over 17 years to roll over and stop snoring. I don't snore at ALL!

My only complaint is that my jaw is ever-so-slightly out of joint in the morning, as the guard keeps the lower jaw distended as I sleep. Within a couple minutes, everything is back to normal. In the on-line propaganda I read, the biggest complaint was from folks waking in a puddle of drool (hence the thread icon!), but I sleep with my mouth shut, so I haven't even had that problem.

Well everything is normal except for me. I have been getting up to pee four or more times each night for years - until this past month. Now I am back to 8-hours or more of uninterrupted sleep... with no potty-breaks and I actually feel RESTED in the morning.

Has anyone else tried it? Any stories to share? Anyone with a BAD experience??? (hey snopes/mods, let me know if I broke any rules with this unpaid endorsement!!)
I'm really glad this thing is working for you, but I have a couple of concerns, and no I'm not a doctor but I've had experience with the two things I'm concerned about so you know internet advice from make believe people and all that.
Anyway, if you snore so badly that you are keeping your wife awake, and if this is coupled with a lot of night time wakefulness and daytime sleepiness you should really have a sleep study done because you could have sleep apnea which can be health and life threatening. It's not just the danger of falling asleep while driving, but it can have adverse effects on your heart, blood pressure, and other functions.
My DH has a very severe case of it. He not only uses C-pap, but he's also had the surgery to remove excess tissue and the uvula, and septum surgery to straighten his septum. And yes, after all of that he still snores and stops breathing during the night without C-pap, though not as loudly or as often. Actually they are thinking of raising the air pressure on his c-pap again because he snores a bit even with it on.
You see the thing has changed his life and he sleeps tons better with it, though other health concerns still make him struggle.

The other concern I have is with this particular device you're using and your description of your jaw discomfort in the morning. As said above, I'm not a doctor, but in my completely unprofessional opinion it sounds like a steady dose of that thing could cause you to develop TMJ (Temporal Mandibular Joint dysfunction) say that five times fast.

Anyway, as a young girl I used a headgear incorrectly, because of a quack orthodontist, and I now have a pretty severe, though recently relatively asymptomatic case of TMJ. I used to have to yank my lower jaw back into place with a nice audible "pop crack". Yeah, I was a hoot at parties. It can cause clicking, grinding, cramping, (this I still get and it is sooo painful) severe headaches, swelling, locking, and a bunch of other stuff that is just no fun, and once you have it treatment is often difficult, expensive, and it's often questionable which treatment, if any, will work.

There, now I've rained on your parade. I may well be totally off base with everything I've written here, but those are concerns I would have if any rl friends asked me what I think.

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Old 14 September 2009, 11:10 AM
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I snore, it started when my face got smashed to pieces and the repair left me with a narrowed/obstructed sinus. Also drinking a skinful of beer and falling asleep on my back doesn't help

Still, I've had few complaints over the years, but always found those nose strips that widen your intake help me sleep quieter. I'd recommend any other snorers out there confirm what it is that actually causes the noise before shelling out on a treatment.
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Old 14 September 2009, 12:08 PM
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You just adjust it (tab A into one pair of three-pairs of holes), then drop it into boiling water for 60 seconds. Pull it out (a fork works fine to hook it, but tongs would work as well - probably better), then let it sit for TEN seconds to cool (I shook the boiling water out of the crevasses. Then you put it in your mouth and bite down so the softened plastic creates an impression.
I do have one worrisome anecdote about this, especially if you find you tend to grind your teeth or clench them at night. I clench mine, and for awhile was using a night guard to soften the blow. I had one that is a couple little pads that fit between the molars, with a small plastic connector that runs below the teeth in front, and had very much success.

When I managed to bite through the pads after a few months, I decided to try a different kind, because the original one isn't cheap. A guard that is moldable in the way that you mention cost half as much as the kind I had been using. I molded it, and it worked fine, if a bit more bulky and slightly uncomfortable. I did find my upper front teeth were hurting some in the morning, because as I clamped down during the night, the whole thing rocked slightly, putting stress on my front teeth that were trapped in the molded section.

Not too long afterward, I started having pain in one of my lateral incisors, which I initially credited to a cavity. I went to the dentist to have it checked out, and the x-ray and examination showed no cavity, but that the root was dying. I asked how that could happen, and the dentist asked if I had been hit in the mouth or something, and when I said no, had no further ideas. It wasn't until later that I put things together, and realized the repeated stress from the guard may have caused it. I ended up needing a root canal!

So be very, very careful to make sure the thing is not putting undue stress on any of your teeth.
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I snore, it started when my face got smashed to pieces and the repair left me with a narrowed/obstructed sinus. Also drinking a skinful of beer and falling asleep on my back doesn't help

Still, I've had few complaints over the years, but always found those nose strips that widen your intake help me sleep quieter. I'd recommend any other snorers out there confirm what it is that actually causes the noise before shelling out on a treatment.
The nose strips seem to help if the problem is a deviated septum or something in the nose. It doesn't address the throat closing problem.

My husband does happen to have a deviated septum and the strips reduce the snoring somewhat but not entirely.

I still think he should have a sleep study but he's wanting to see if spending 60 bucks on that thing will solve the problem. I think what will happen is that he won't like having that thing in his mouth.

Sylvanz, I think you actually raise some pretty good concerns.

But if I have to buy that thing and then have it annoy him in order to convince him to just go ahead and get the sleep study then that's what I will do.

Mags concern about teeth are something to consider also. Hmm.
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He has a CPAP that he doesn't wear (it gives him a sinus infection every time). When it's really bad, I wear industrial ear plugs.
I'm not sure when he got his prescription, but I was diagnosed with obstructive sleep apena this past January, and the variety of masks and the different types of apparatus were a little intimidating. I lucked out and got a representative who was familiar and well versed in it all, and with her help I was able to try several different ones until we found something that works well with the shape of my face, and then tried different sizes until we found a nice seal that was comfortable. I wound up with a Mirage Quattro size small, with medium headgear.

If a standard nasal mask is giving him sinus infections, it is very much worth it to look into other options - and if its been more than 3 minutes since he got the original, it'll probably be covered by his insurance. As the others have said, sleep apena can cause many serious side effects, it's not just being tired.
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I suffer from my husband's snoring!

He has a CPAP that he doesn't wear (it gives him a sinus infection every time). When it's really bad, I wear industrial ear plugs.
I do, too! (Well, my husband's, not yours.) He went for a sleep study and they told him he doesn't have sleep apnea and that he needs to lose weight. That was...hm, over a year ago? We sleep in separate rooms most nights because I can't deal with his snoring, it's that bad. And I too wear the industrial ear plugs.
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I do, too! (Well, my husband's, not yours.) He went for a sleep study and they told him he doesn't have sleep apnea and that he needs to lose weight. That was...hm, over a year ago?
Obesity is a cause of sleep apnea.

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We sleep in separate rooms most nights because I can't deal with his snoring, it's that bad. And I too wear the industrial ear plugs.
*sigh* BTDT, and it totally sucks.
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This problem does exist in my family.

One of our kids was diagnosed on a sleep study with apnea, and advised to have tonsils out. Follow-up sleep study showed no more problem.

DW says that I gasp in the night, and snore some as well, but I have been putting off getting tested despite the family doc telling me to. This is undoubtedly bad of me. Maybe going public with this example of a man behaving badly will motivate me to improve
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This problem does exist in my family.

One of our kids was diagnosed on a sleep study with apnea, and advised to have tonsils out. Follow-up sleep study showed no more problem.

DW says that I gasp in the night, and snore some as well, but I have been putting off getting tested despite the family doc telling me to. This is undoubtedly bad of me. Maybe going public with this example of a man behaving badly will motivate me to improve
Seriously Steve, have it checked out. DH's doctors use spousal input quite often when deciding whether to test or whether pressure adjustments need to be made. If you're gasping at night it really sounds like you might stop breathing for some amount of time. Diagnoses and treatment can improve your quality of life more than you can imagine. It probably won't hurt your wife's either.

Also, about the face mask: DH wears the mirage full face mask. He's a mouth breather and even after surgery he couldn't tolerate the nasal mask.

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Obesity is a cause of sleep apnea.
But it can't be - obesity is fine, and surely can't be the underlying cause of any health problems, let alone ones that might affect your whole life for the worse!
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Jerry snored loudly before the stroke. But, I could always nudge him and he'd roll over and stop snoring.

After the stroke his snoring reached hearing-damaging levels. Not an exaggeration. The first year after his stroke, he slept in the living room on the sofa bed because our waterbed was too soft for him to get out of without assistance. The next two years, I worked nights. Within a year of sharing a bed with him again, he damaged the hearing in my good ear.

I can't wear earplugs because he's on so many types of medicines at night, he's like a zombie. Someone has to be wake-able. (Yes, I know my kids are all but grown now, but they're not always wake-able in the teen-sleep-like-the-dead sense). Anyway, he's had the sleep testing for apnea and he doesn't have it. He just snores loud. The flappy thing in the back of the throat is now half-paralyzed from the stroke so no matter his position, he snores. The nose strips don't help, nor does anything else I've tried (home remedy-wise, that is).

I'll have to have a look at this product and see if it would help or not.

ETA: I just checked the website. Jerry can't use it for a few of the different dental issues he has. Drat.
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Steve, you should go get a sleep study done. When DH had bad sleep apnea he would stop breathing every 5 minutes and do the gasp and snore. I would wake up every 5 minutes to make sure he was still breathing after the bed shaking snore and silence. For your DW get it taken care of. She will thank you in the end.
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Obesity is a cause of sleep apnea.
Yup. I pointed out that the people at the sleep center, even if they told him he doesn't have sleep apnea, they did tell him he needed to lose weight. He's aware of this. Accepting it and actually, you know doing something? Well, I can't say too much- I myself am carrying around an extra 20 pounds or so. (I would guess he needs to lose close to 40, but he is almost a foot taller than I am, so it probably evens out in the end.)
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