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Old 13 March 2007, 08:42 PM
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Comment: Here's a story I've heard - if your car gets hit by an armored car (i.e.
Brinks), they are the only vehicles allowed to leave the scene. The
armored car driver will call the police and report the accident and then
they will automatically pay your damages. This is done to prevent
"smash-and-grab" robberies.
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Old 13 March 2007, 08:44 PM
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Comment: Here's a story I've heard - if your car gets hit by an armored car (i.e.
Brinks), they are the only vehicles allowed to leave the scene. The
armored car driver will call the police and report the accident and then
they will automatically pay your damages. This is done to prevent
"smash-and-grab" robberies.
I'm pretty sure that their trucks and the guards in them are very well capable of stopping a smash and grab.
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Old 14 March 2007, 02:24 PM
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I'm pretty sure that their trucks and the guards in them are very well capable of stopping a smash and grab.

You would be surprised. I worked for an armored car service in the past. Amazing the way it works. At the ripe old age of eighteen I could legally carry a gun for work, but could not legally purchase one. The pay was slightly, VERY slightly, above minimum wage. Even in the small town I worked in, it was not unusual to have to replace cash in 4 or 5 ATM machines a day. Each machine, again, in a small town even, carried $40,000 in twenties and $10,000 in tens. Yes, this was long enough ago that they still had tens in the ATM's. There was also what the banks called a "Bait Strap" it was $1000 worth of twenties that if you were robbed inside the ATM, you wanted to make sure the robbers at least took that. The bills were marked, or the serial numbers were recorded, or something. I don't remember the details on this too well. All I do know is that if someone came and wanted the money, for SLIGHTLY over minimum wage, my only question would have been, "Do you need help out with those bags, Sir?"

This also brings another myth to mind that I've always wanted to talk about. I've seen the myth of the "reverse PIN" a few times here. That may come from the fact that there are several ways to summon the police from INSIDE of an ATM machine. One of the easiest is if you are forced to open the safe inside the ATM's (at least the ones I worked in), then you simply put the key in the dial, dial the combination, but add 10 to the last number of it. The safe will open, keeping you safe from upsetting the person with the gun, but it also sends a silent alarm to the alarm company. There were other ways as well, but that is for another day.

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Old 14 March 2007, 03:59 PM
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All I do know is that if someone came and wanted the money, for SLIGHTLY over minimum wage, my only question would have been, "Do you need help out with those bags, Sir?"
Makes perfect sense. There is no reason to take any risks for such relatively small sums, which the insurance company can cover in a jiffy. A guard's job is to look dangerous and to discourage robbers, not to be dangerous. Once a robbery is in progress, his work is done and the police takes over the responsibility.
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Makes perfect sense. There is no reason to take any risks for such relatively small sums, which the insurance company can cover in a jiffy.
I wonder how much a brinks truck carries at any given time though.

Even if they were robbed and the drivers let them - that would still make the OP false, there would be no reason for a smash and grab. The trucks are probably (based on what I have seen) well built, and the guards look intimidating. Why drive away. Even if they were allowed to flee the scene, it would make accidents with brinks trucks more likely since brinks would always pay for it.
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Old 14 March 2007, 07:33 PM
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I wonder how much a brinks truck carries at any given time though.
Not more than an insurance company can cover.
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Old 14 March 2007, 07:41 PM
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Not more than an insurance company can cover.
Yes, but how much will insurers cover is the question.
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Old 14 March 2007, 09:53 PM
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Yes, but how much will insurers cover is the question.
Depends on how much the company wants to pay. There are also a few different types of insurance.

We were covered for a "street" amount, and a "car" amount.

When we would go to large retailers, who made large deposits, we had to make several trips inside to get their money.

Our insurance company would only cover up to $100,000 if we were in the process of carrying the money from the store to the truck.

The truck was insured for something crazy like 200 million or something. More than we would ever have on there at anyone time.

I'm sure either of those numbers could be higher, it just depends on what premium the company wants to pay.

Lords of London will insure just about anything for any amount, if you want to pay them for it!!!
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Old 14 March 2007, 09:56 PM
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Comment: Here's a story I've heard - if your car gets hit by an armored car (i.e.
Brinks), they are the only vehicles allowed to leave the scene. The
armored car driver will call the police and report the accident and then
they will automatically pay your damages. This is done to prevent
"smash-and-grab" robberies.
In my infinite ignorance, I have failed to answer the question at hand. I remember one of the guys I worked with rear ended another car once. There was nothing I can recall in the employee hand book that allowed us to flee. We stayed. Talked to the police. Our guy was at fault. The company paid. He was no longer allowed to drive.
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In my infinite ignorance, I have failed to answer the question at hand. I remember one of the guys I worked with rear ended another car once. There was nothing I can recall in the employee hand book that allowed us to flee. We stayed. Talked to the police. Our guy was at fault. The company paid. He was no longer allowed to drive.
I kinda figured that. Since the insurance covers the money in the event of a robbery, there would be no reason to allow a brinks truck to flee the scene. Even if there was no insurance for the money. You have a well built truck and two very intimidating guards that are trained well enough to know how to handle a heist.
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I wrote off my first car hitting an amoured van on a dual carraigeway. They stopped and we swapped details like any other accident.
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Old 20 March 2007, 02:46 PM
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Brinks (and any other driver of a motor vehicle for that matter) can leave the scene of an accident anytime they wish. Its just a matter of whether or not they want to be cited (or in some cases jailed) for Hit and Run.
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Lords of London will insure just about anything for any amount, if you want to pay them for it!!!
Are they connected to the Lords of Flatbush?

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Old 27 March 2007, 09:26 PM
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I have a funny Brinks story.

About 30 years ago I was driving a van full of pre-schoolers through Manhattan when the rear door of the Brinks truck in front of me opened up. A box came flying out, split open and suddenly the street was covered with quarters. Someone shouted at the driver and he jammed on the brakes. He leapt out of the truck, pulled his gun and ran to the back where he saw thousands of quarters lying in the street. After a few seconds of this someone said to him, "Would you like some help picking up your quarters?" He came to his senses, put away his gun and nodded his head.

I have often wondered what he thought he was going to do with that gun anyways.

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Old 20 June 2007, 05:46 AM
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I have a funny Brinks story.

About 30 years ago I was driving a van full of pre-schoolers through Manhattan when the rear door of the Brinks truck in front of me opened up. A box came flying out, split open and suddenly the street was covered with quarters. Someone shouted at the driver and he jammed on the brakes. He leapt out of the truck, pulled his gun and ran to the back where he saw thousands of quarters lying in the street. After a few seconds of this someone said to him, "Would you like some help picking up your quarters?" He came to his senses, put away his gun and nodded his head.

I have often wondered what he thought he was going to do with that gun anyways.

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per comapny handbook. when ever you get out of the truck you are supposed to have your gun drawn. Or at least with our company.
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Old 20 June 2007, 06:00 AM
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Brinks (and any other driver of a motor vehicle for that matter) can leave the scene of an accident anytime they wish. Its just a matter of whether or not they want to be cited (or in some cases jailed) for Hit and Run.
That's what I was going to say. Maybe they just consider the ticket for leaving the scene of an accident a business expense.
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