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Old 27 August 2009, 06:56 PM
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Old 27 August 2009, 07:18 PM
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Dennis Guthrie is a real person with those credentials who works at that law firm in Charlotte (source).
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Old 27 August 2009, 07:22 PM
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Dennis Guthrie is a real person with those credentials who works at that law firm in Charlotte (source).
I wold like to join the Union of Marxist Principals (UMP).
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Old 27 August 2009, 07:26 PM
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Assuming this is real, I'm quite certain that Mr. Guthrie was equally vehement in his condemnation of the right wingers who have used the term "un-Amemerican" for protestors exercising their rights upon which this country was founder.

Yup, really quite certain.
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Old 27 August 2009, 07:27 PM
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I wold like to join the Union of Marxist Principals (UMP).
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Assuming this is real, I'm quite certain that Mr. Guthrie was equally vehement in his condemnation of the right wingers who have used the term "un-Amemerican" for protestors exercising their rights upon which this country was founder.

Yup, really quite certain.
Oh naturally. He has one similarly worded addressed to Newt Gingrich, circa August 1995. It's stirring.
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Old 27 August 2009, 07:38 PM
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Dennis Guthrie is a real person with those credentials who works at that law firm in Charlotte (source).
I'm not sure I would want Mr Guthrie advocating on my behalf, though. In the first instance, "socialism" didn't exist at the time of the writing of the US constitution, so they hardly would have been able to strongly avoid it. Karl Marx was, IIRC, born in 1819, so wouldn't have been able to have influenced the framers of the US constitution. And it's "principles," not "principals."

Moreover, although "socialism" itself as a word didn't exist until Pierre Lamour's 1834 essay Individualisme et Socialisme it has its roots in the 'Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite' espoused by the French Revolution of 1789.

Now, would anyone like to hypothesise which anti-Monarchist revolution inspired by the writings of Tom Paine was the inspiration for the 1789 French Revolution? Or, indeed, which country Karl Marx thought was the most humane society in the world?
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Old 27 August 2009, 07:41 PM
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Shhhhhhhhh English guy. Shhhhhhhhhh.

Mr. Guthrie, Esq., will take care of all of your thinking needs for you.
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He also seems somewhat torn about capitalism (good!), and its ability to produce multi-millionaires (bad!)
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Actually, IDNRC. Karl Marx was born in 1818, not 1819 as I erroneously claimed.
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Old 27 August 2009, 07:46 PM
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Shhhhhhhhh English guy. Shhhhhhhhhh.
Someone's going on to the naughty step right now, and not coming off until she's very very sorry.
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Old 27 August 2009, 07:49 PM
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Sweet! I haven't been on the naughty step in a very long time! Not for lack of trying, mind you!
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The forwards of this letter are starting to include the following:

To all:
I called Dennis Guthrie and spoke with him at length about the attached letter.

It is authentic so please do not call Mr. Guthrie to confirm the veracity. He says that he almost wishes (almost) that he did not write it because of all of the calls and emails he has received.

He said that it would be fine for me to distribute with the caveat that he cannot spend another full day on the phone verifying that he wrote it. If you forward this, please express those concerns.

I am glad to see someone willing to write such a letter on corporate letterhead and send it.

Good for him. And us.
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It is authentic so please do not call Mr. Guthrie to confirm the veracity.
Absolutely! Instead of going to the source I most certainly will accept the word of a random stranger. That's how I roll.

Is it now Davis, Henderson & Staton?

I'm pretty certain that if anyone at our firm (accounting, not law) were to send out such a letter there would be dire consequences (even if the partners agreed with the sentiment).

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It is authentic so please do not call Mr. Guthrie to confirm the veracity. He says that he almost wishes (almost) that he did not write it because of all of the calls and emails he has received.
He regrets writing it, not because it's a pointless, childish, mouth-foaming diatribe, but because it's becoming an inconvenience to him? Cry me a river.
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I just emailed Mr. Guthrie to ask if the letter was real. Standing by.

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I just emailed Mr. Guthrie to ask if the letter was real. Standing by.

Bob K.
^5!

Those who don't want to be bothered at work don't publish their polemics on company letterhead.
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Old 02 September 2009, 07:07 PM
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^5!

Those who don't want to be bothered at work don't publish their polemics on company letterhead.
Well, that works for me. I just want to see if this is some sort of Joe job or what. My thinking is that you don't make partner in a law firm without a) some modicum of tact and diplomacy and b) knowing that the business jet is a "Gulfstream," not a "gulf-stream." So I figure a probability of around 40% that this is a letterhead hijack.

Beyond that, when an acquaintance published similar spittle-flying screeds seemingly out of the blue, they were later diagnosed with early-onset Alzheimers. I suspect that their convictions and attitudes hadn't changed, only their sense of propriety regarding how and when to express them.

Thanks, Bob K.
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