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Old 10 August 2009, 08:15 PM
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Comment: I have now heard this story from several sources. This one is
from a Paul Krugman column "Like Your Private Health Care?":

Krugman wrote: "At a recent town hall meeting, a man stood up and told
Representative Bob Inglis to "keep your government hands off my Medicare."
The congressman, a Republican from South Carolina, tried to explain that
Medicare is already a government program -- but the voter, Mr. Inglis
said, "wasn't having any of it." It's a funny story -- but it illustrates
the extent to which health reform must climb a wall of misinformation."
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Old 10 August 2009, 08:18 PM
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Well, Krugman did write that.

Doesn't necessarily mean the story is totally true, though.

This article quotes Inglis himself on the matter.
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Old 10 August 2009, 09:43 PM
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Well, Krugman did write that.

Doesn't necessarily mean the story is totally true, though.

This article quotes Inglis himself on the matter.
I went to your link and here's what I found:

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At a recent town-hall meeting in suburban Simpsonville, a man stood up and told Rep. Robert Inglis (R-S.C.) to "keep your government hands off my Medicare."

"I had to politely explain that, 'Actually, sir, your health care is being provided by the government,' " Inglis recalled. "But he wasn't having any of it."
I'm not seeing the difference. Can you explain what you mean?
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Old 10 August 2009, 09:53 PM
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I went to your link and here's what I found:



I'm not seeing the difference. Can you explain what you mean?
Not much of a difference, but the first is written by Krugman, a columnist, the source of the exact quote in the OP. The second quotes a longer section directly from Inglis, who was the one who actually had the remark addressed at him.
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Old 10 August 2009, 09:56 PM
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Not much of a difference, but the first is written by Krugman, a columnist, the source of the exact quote in the OP. The second quotes a longer section directly from Inglis, who was the one who actually had the remark addressed at him.
Okay. I guess I took your first post to mean that Krugman wasn't being entirely truthful about the quote, so I was confused.
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Old 10 August 2009, 09:58 PM
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Rep. Inglis hosted a town-hall meeting in Simpsonville on June 29. Presumably this is the meeting where the (alleged) comment was made. However, I haven't yet found any news reports about this meeting. The only source we seem to have for the comment is Inglis himself, as told to the Washington Post. It may have happened, but it seems odd that nobody else at that meeting has publicly reported it, as far as I can tell.
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Okay. I guess I took your first post to mean that Krugman wasn't being entirely truthful about the quote, so I was confused.
Well, he could have been relaying an anecdote third-hand in a misleading way, even unintentionally. But the presence of the corroborating second article, with the longer direct quote from the eyewitness Inglis, reduces the likelihood of that.
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Old 10 August 2009, 10:01 PM
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FWIW, it appears that Krugman got the anecdote, which he used for the NYTimes story, from the Washington Post story that I also linked.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/200...yer-insurance/
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Old 10 August 2009, 10:37 PM
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FYI, I read a fair number of right-wing blogs, and the anti-reform people tend to say that Medicare is not "paid for" by the government, since you have paid into it via payroll deductions over the course of your career. I'm not sure who they think pays for the health care of, for example, a non-working spouse, but that seems to be their argument.
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FYI, I read a fair number of right-wing blogs, and the anti-reform people tend to say that Medicare is not "paid for" by the government, since you have paid into it via payroll deductions over the course of your career. I'm not sure who they think pays for the health care of, for example, a non-working spouse, but that seems to be their argument.
hmm. You'd think that would kind of take all the air out of their arguments against government healthcare as well, since, you know, you'd have paid into any government healthcare program via taxes over the course of your career.
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My mother heard a woman say the exact same thing on TV once during the 1993-94 health care battle. It's not that surprising that people would say a thing like that, dumb as it is. People love to hate the government, even when it does something right. Witness Bush's stern warning that the Democrats wanted to treat Social Security "like it's some kind of federal program".
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hmm. You'd think that would kind of take all the air out of their arguments against government healthcare as well, since, you know, you'd have paid into any government healthcare program via taxes over the course of your career.
They seem to think that the entire amount that they've paid in to Medicare is in a savings account (or perhaps a "lockox") with their name on it, just waiting to be spent when they retire. Their tax money, of course, is just going to pay for healthcare for illegal immigrants and welfare mothers. ETA: And ACORN.
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Someone named Dick Morris posted on his blog that "Obama will repeal Medicare" with his new healthcare program.

Also, there is an advertisement being aired on TV right now which states that the new proposed Obama health care program will cut 500 billion from Medicare. This ad encourages seniors to act and oppose the new health care program if they want to continue to receive Medicare.

I wonder what exactly is the truth of this matter!

Barb Rainey
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