Does anyone know these girls?

[Spam & Cookies-mmm]

This came via myspace bulletin.

Doesn't snopes do his own investigations?

Their names are supposedly Frances and Beatrice Baudelaire. Their story is a dramatic and depressing one. The girls were 14 yr old twins from Lyon, France. On New years eve, 2005, Frances is said to have strangled her identical twin in the bathtub before turning a gun on herself. Both twins tragically died that day.

Horrible story, right?

This bit of internet lore is being passed around as fact when it is really nothing more than an elaborate internet hoax. There is a girl named "Annie Rowley' who made up the entire thing. Virtual memorial sites, friends' sites, things written by the twins' "parents". "Annie Rowley"'s myspace can be found here:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...0-e0ab-4912-bb

I don't know about you, but if someone were randomly using my picture for an internet hoax, saying I was dead, I would want to know! If any of you know who these girls are REALLY,
please contact:
Carrie Jones: carriecakes27@yahoo.com

She is working on the story for snopes.com.

Thanks for your time and help!


Please pass this bulletin on. Someone needs to inform these girl that their photos are being passed off as two dead girls.

[Randa Roo]

I don't know the girls, but a search for the email address turns up one hit, to this page.

'Karatcakes' has a journal about bulimia. How much she eats, how much she purges, how long it takes her to do so and she belongs to 3 groups about how to 'get' eating disorders. Ugh.

[StewPot]

Interesting... Now snopes.com is being used as "evidence" to spread rumors. Is that what irony is, or what irony is not?

[Ana Ng]

Those girls are fourteen my arse!

[Beachlife!]

Beatrice Baudelaire is a fictional character name that has been used before. Not very original.

[BringTheNoise]

Originally Posted by Ana Ng

Those girls are fourteen my arse!

Indeed. I also can't see many French teenagers wearing T-shirts adorned with Old Glory.

[Buckle Up]

One of them looks like Sandra Bullock. It's not, but I just thought I'd throw it out there.

[Grand Illusion]

Originally Posted by BringTheNoise

Indeed. I also can't see many French teenagers wearing T-shirts adorned with Old Glory.

Good catch!

[Malruhn]

Not "good"... GREAT catch! I looked all over for anything identifiable and came up empty... Maybe next time I'll try opening my eyes.

ETA: I did catch that they don't look "identical"... they look like very similar siblings or fraternal twins at best. The one on the right looks older, and has visible bags beneath her eyes, unlike the other that looks a couple years younger.

And I agree - 14 my bottom parts!!

[Buckle Up]

Lots of identical twins have minor differences. I'm actually convinced there's another kind of twin that we haven't discovered yet, not fraternal and not identical (or mirror) but that's for another thread.

[guruwan2b]

A coworker has twin granddaughters that have the exact same DNA, but look very different as far as height, and weight. She said when they were born the smaller one's umbilical cord was an offshoot of the bigger twins umbilical cord.

[Nick Theodorakis]

Originally Posted by guruwan2b

A coworker has twin granddaughters that have the exact same DNA, but look very different as far as height, and weight. She said when they were born the smaller one's umbilical cord was an offshoot of the bigger twins umbilical cord.

Are you talking about twin-to-twin transfusion syndrome? That can lead to very disparate birth weights in identical twins.

Nick

[Buckle Up]

okay, I'll [hijack] this thread.

My aunts were allegedly fraternal twins - the doctor swears they were fraternal twins, the mother agrees, etc. But they looked very similar - not exactly the same, but certainly they looked like identical twins, especially when they were little girls - you could not tell them apart. And, here's the kicker - they both had the same very rare medcial disorder (JRA). Maybe this twin-to-twin thing was a cause. They both died before DNA testing was common. I'm going to look into it. [hijack]

ETA: Now that I read that twin-to-twin article that's not the cause. I'll take any other theories (other than "you're wrong, Buckleupp!").

[Nick Theodorakis]

Originally Posted by Buckleupp

okay, I'll [hijack] this thread.

My aunts were allegedly fraternal twins - the doctor swears they were fraternal twins, the mother agrees, etc. But they looked very similar - not exactly the same, but certainly they looked like identical twins, especially when they were little girls - you could not tell them apart. And, here's the kicker - they both had the same very rare medcial disorder (JRA). Maybe this twin-to-twin thing was a cause. They both died before DNA testing was common. I'm going to look into it. [hijack]

I think I said this before in another thread, but unless there is clear evidence to the contrary, such as different sex or blood type, the only way to be sure that twins are not identical is by genetic testing. It is erroneoulsy believed, even by many medical professionals, that the presence of two placentas is diagnostic of fraternal twins, but that is just not true.

Many monozygotic twins can look somewhat different even without a medical condition such as TTTS.

In a usenet froup I used to be active in, there were several parents who reported that their doctors told them that their twins were fraternal, but later genetic testing revealed they were identical.

Nick

[Sister Ray]

You are thinking of "polar body twinning" which hasn't been proven to occur in humans. Basically, a part of the egg breaks off before it is fertilized but doesn't die and is also fertilized. At least that is the theory.

I don't think my sister and I look that similar, but everyone else we meet disagrees. Then again, I know her better than they do.

Sister "loves her clone" Ray

[TrishDaDish]

Hey - leave the gals alone for wearing a shirt with an American flag, if they are French! When I was 14 (and in no way resembling the girls in that photo when I was), I wore shirts with Union Jacks (even had a large one painted on my bedroom wall), but that doesn't follow through that I was British. What, are all French people supposed to hate Americans, and all Amercians are supposed to hate the French? (But that's a different thread in Inboxer...)

[Squishy0405]

My thought on this picture was maybe it was from this special I just saw. I forgot the guys name but basically he was taking submissions for a photo session with your exact look-a-like. Very interesting concept...they had to be completely unrelated & some people even came from different countries! Anyone see this as well?

ETA: I reposted b/c it came from another snopester who usually doesn't post crappy sludge

hello all, as of now we still haven't been able to find these girls...we pretty much know that they aren't who they are supossed to be and are not dead, but we still cannot find out the actual girls in the photos...this story was created by a girl supossedly from england named Annie...who was friends with them, but her details of the case are contradicting, and she locked their "memorials" if anyone is interested you can check out the story here...
http://mydeathspace.com/smf/index.php?topic=1149.0


sorry if this is bad, linking forum to forum...some forums don't like that so sorry in advance
thanks

[Canuckistan]

Carrie Jones: carriecakes27@yahoo.com

She is working on the story for snopes.com.

I was unaware snopes and Barbara had freelance writers. (I know it's happened on very rare occasion, but this just doesn't seem to qualify.)

[Spam & Cookies-mmm]

Originally Posted by Canuckistan

I was unaware snopes and Barbara had freelance writers.

I wondered about that when I saw this the first time too.