P&G Suing Utah Company for 'Satan' Remarks

[coleus]

Consumer products giant Procter & Gamble says a Utah company spread false rumors that P&G is associated with Satanism. Procter & Gamble is suing the company for libel and unfair competition.

http://kutv.com/topstories/local_story_065213412.html

[Flagg]

From article: "The people who allegedly sent the messages are associated with Amway, a corporate competitor of Procter & Gamble. "

I expected to see that when I read the article. Back in about 1996 my ex-BIL and SIL got involved in Amway. It became almost a religion to them. My ex-SIL even told us that she refused to use any product sold by any other company if that product could be purchased through, "The Business," as they called it. She was very proud of the fact that she once had to go three days without deodorant while waiting for a shipment.

Their militancy about Amway caused problems in my ex's family because they would not leave people alone about it, just would not take no for an answer. They were worse than the people who knock on your door for religious reasons.

Anyway, a standard part of their sales pitch when trying to convert me and others to Amway was that so many of the products they sold were also made by P&G, and that P&G regularly gave a large chunk of their profits to the Church of Satan. They said there were other large corporations that did the same, but P&G was the one they supposedly confirmed and was the one most mentioned. Apparently this was standard practice and common knowledge with their higher-ups in The Business.

For the record, I never bought into the Evil P&G stuff, or into Amway. This was a major source of stress between me and my ex because she really wanted to support her brother in his Amway efforts, and I had a problem resisting the urge to shoot holes in the logic of their business plans.

The last I heard they dropped Amway and are huckstering for some vitamin outfit.

[diddy]

Good for P&G. Anybody who believes in that old myth has a terrible understanding of business and is ignorant about satanism in general (the second I can believe). Amway of all people should know how silly it sounds and I would hazard it was very deliberate.

Originally Posted by diddy

Good for P&G. Anybody who believes in that old myth has a terrible understanding of business and is ignorant about satanism in general.

Besides, we all know it is Wal-Mart that is working with Satan....

[Nick Theodorakis]

Originally Posted by Flagg

...

The last I heard they dropped Amway and are huckstering for some vitamin outfit.

Shaklee?

(hmmm.. odd, there's no Wikipedia entry for Shaklee. I wonder if they got it removed)

Nick

[snapdragonfly]

That rumour about P&G has been around forever. It has something to do with a tiny little logo they used to have (maybe still do) with a moon and some stars or something like that. Which as we all know is absolute proof of being in cahoots with SATAN.

I run away screaming if someone approaches me about Amway or anything else like that. No. nonononononono.

eta - oh, if you read the link it shows that little logo.

Personally I think it's a really cool looking logo...

[Old goat]

I first heard this in the late 80's when my step-daughter announced a boycott of P&G because the CEO went on Jonny Carson and said he was a satanist. I asked her if she had seen anything in the news, since this would have been a pretty good story. She learned to check things out instead of blindly following the mob.
(She also learned not to ask me simple questions, I never gave a simple answer)

[Brad from Georgia]

Many years ago, P&G went after an Atlanta weatherman, Guy Sharpe (also an Amway distributor, and also a Methodist lay minister), because he had been spreading the rumor. They settled out of court, but one consequence was that the broadcaster had to recant the Satanist claims on TV.

[diddy]

Originally Posted by Old goat

I first heard this in the late 80's when my step-daughter announced a boycott of P&G because the CEO went on Jonny Carson and said he was a satanist. I asked her if she had seen anything in the news, since this would have been a pretty good story. She learned to check things out instead of blindly following the mob.
(She also learned not to ask me simple questions, I never gave a simple answer)

Did you happen to ask what a CEO of a giant conglomerate is doing on Johnny Carson or why the Producers of the Carson show would think that a CEO would make a good guest?

[Darth Credence]

Originally Posted by Nick Theodorakis

Shaklee?

(hmmm.. odd, there's no Wikipedia entry for Shaklee. I wonder if they got it removed)

Nick

I'd guess at Usana. They don't have a Wikipedia page either, because administrators deemed it advertising.

[Cowboy Joe]

In fact, a fair number of the "door knockers" also belong to Amway. As a Mormon, I have been approached about Amway more times than I care to recall.

[Tantei Kid]

Originally Posted by diddy

Did you happen to ask what a CEO of a giant conglomerate is doing on Johnny Carson or why the Producers of the Carson show would think that a CEO would make a good guest?

He'd make a good guest because he'd spout off wacky stuff about Satanism. duh.

Originally Posted by Old goat

I first heard this in the late 80's when my step-daughter announced a boycott of P&G because the CEO went on Jonny Carson and said he was a satanist. I asked her if she had seen anything in the news, since this would have been a pretty good story. She learned to check things out instead of blindly following the mob.
(She also learned not to ask me simple questions, I never gave a simple answer)

'
the article quoted above says this however:

The messages repeated an old rumor that the president of proctor and gamble appeared here on the old Phil Donahue talk show, and said he would "come out of the closet" and admit his company was Satanist, and gave a lot of its profits to the church of Satan.

chalk it up to good ole rumor spreading, like urban legends.

[AnglRdr]

Whoever wrote that article should be slapped with a tube of Crest for their utter lack of proofreading ability.

[Lainie]

Another version of the rumor featured Sally Jesse Raphael's show.

[Gnat]

My father has worked at P & G in Toronto for many years now (and my parents are both Christians...working with the devil! ) I remember back when I did the ninth grade "take your kids to work day" meeting some of the people in the customer service department there, and learning that they have to deal with calls regarding this rumour at least several times a day and have for God knows how long since it started. I felt so bad for them...how annoying and exhausting that must be!

[barbrainey]

Some urban legends really die hard! Some people don't want to learn the truth. They would rather continuing living with their heads in the Twilight Zone! (Right, Rod Serling?)

Barbara R.

[Lainie]

At the distribution company I used to work for, we had a summer employee who had swallowed that rumor hook, line and sinker. We distributed a few P&G products, and she would refer to P&G as "the devil vendor". It struck me as completely inappropriate and unprofessional, but I wasn't her boss.

[coleus]

I think it's funny that the only time I had heard this rumor was when I had read it here on snopes. Then I served a mission (yes, I was one of those evil door knockers) and one of the missionaries I came in contact with full on believed it. The missionary's family refused to buy anything from p&g. I wonder if they also sold amway.
It's no surprise that Amway (or bit or two of it) is running here in Utah. Fine breeding ground for mlms.

(thanks to the all powerful ones who got this in the right forum. sorry about that.)

[Flagg]

Originally Posted by Nick Theodorakis

Shaklee?

(hmmm.. odd, there's no Wikipedia entry for Shaklee. I wonder if they got it removed)

Nick

I have no idea what the name of the company is. I just heard through a mutual friend that they are now distributers for a line of vitamins and food supplements and are giving everyone they know or meet the old hard-sell once again.