Obama = bad

[snopes]

Comment: President Obama won't allow children from South Carolina school
to tour white house because SC governor Sanford refuses stimulus money.

[snopes]

Comment: I recently heard a rumor that President Obama ordered the removal
of the current leather seating in Air Force One and replacing it with
expensive Italian leather at a cost of approximately one milliom $. Any
truth to this?

[PrairieBlueEyes]

I just ran into this through one of my Facebook contacts:
http://obamunism.us/
It's a Facebook group and also on Twitter.

Oh noes, we are on the slippery slope to socialism, communism and Marxism.

[Nonny Mouse]

Originally Posted by PrairieBlueEyes

Oh noes, we are on the slippery slope to socialism, communism and Marxism.

Can I bring my toboggan?

[Tarquin Farquart]

Originally Posted by PrairieBlueEyes

http://obamunism.us/

Oh noes!!11!! The communists are coming! They're be nationalising the means of production under the dictatorship of the proletariat before we know it.

Or not.

[Chloe]

Originally Posted by snopes

Comment: President Obama won't allow children from South Carolina school
to tour white house because SC governor Sanford refuses stimulus money.

Half true. He won't let them tour, but that's because Rahm Emmanuel would eat them.

[Tweetilynn]

Originally Posted by snopes

Comment: President Obama won't allow children from South Carolina school
to tour white house because SC governor Sanford refuses stimulus money.

Why would he care? I heard on the radio this morning that my state legislature voted down accepting any stimulus money for the extension of unemployment in this state and the leading democrats are trying to get them to reconvene and vote again. Don't know how that will come out. I feel that this is just more of the "I'm doing okay so to hell with everyone else" attitude we have seen so much of lately.

[snopes]

Why would he care?

And in any case, does he control who does or does not get to tour the White House? He doesn't own the place; he's just a tenant.

[Natalie]

Originally Posted by snopes

And in any case, does he control who does or does not get to tour the White House? He doesn't own the place; he's just a tenant.

One would hope that, even if he were able to exercise some kind of authority over who visits the White House, that he would be able to find better uses of his time.

[Mr. Billion]

It would be bizarre and politically self-destructive if he tried to block people from touring the White House for such spurious reasons, I think.

[Eddylizard]

Originally Posted by snopes

Comment: I recently heard a rumor that President Obama ordered the removal
of the current leather seating in Air Force One and replacing it with
expensive Italian leather at a cost of approximately one milliom $. Any
truth to this?

If the seat covers on the two aircraft colloquially known as Air Force One, more properly SAM28000 and 29000, which I think this comment refers to were indeed replaced, then that's really only to be expected. Those aircraft are nearly 20 years old, and leather seat coverings do tend to start to get a bit manky looking and frayed in that timescale. I would expect the seat covers to be replaced at this stage. The padding might also be expected to be substandard with repeated use. Putting a whole new seat in might be the most economic option.

Of course this leaves several questions. Are the seat covers in these two aircraft actually leather? That I don't know. It sounds reasonable.

Would it cost one milliom $ (sic) to replace the seat covers or the whole seating? Possibly yes I'm guessing with labour and whatnot.

Assuming it happened, and I can't find any verification, did President Obama actually directly order the replacement of the seats (un-necessarily and frivolousy as implied in the comment), or was that a decision of the maintainence crew, which Obama had to sign off?

If he personally directed it, did Obama specifically ask for Italian leather? If so, why?

[Roadsterboy]

Originally Posted by Eddylizard

If the seat covers on the two aircraft colloquially known as Air Force One, more properly SAM28000 and 29000, which I think this comment refers to were indeed replaced, then that's really only to be expected. Those aircraft are nearly 20 years old, and leather seat coverings do tend to start to get a bit manky looking and frayed in that timescale. I would expect the seat covers to be replaced at this stage. The padding might also be expected to be substandard with repeated use. Putting a whole new seat in might be the most economic option.

Of course this leaves several questions. Are the seat covers in these two aircraft actually leather? That I don't know. It sounds reasonable.

Would it cost one milliom $ (sic) to replace the seat covers or the whole seating? Possibly yes I'm guessing with labour and whatnot.

Assuming it happened, and I can't find any verification, did President Obama actually directly order the replacement of the seats (un-necessarily and frivolousy as implied in the comment), or was that a decision of the maintainence crew, which Obama had to sign off?

If he personally directed it, did Obama specifically ask for Italian leather? If so, why?

I don't believe that all of the seating in the AF1s* is leather, but that there are "executive" seats covered with the stuff. Certainly the President's office on board has this. I think that some compartments have just standard style airliner seats. I also wouldn't be surprised if the planes have been remodeled at least once already-they were ordered during the Reagan administration, after all.

-RB

*Air Force Ones, which is easier to type than SAM 2800 and 2900. I suppose I could have gone with "SAMs" but didn't, and have now pretty much wasted any advantage that typing "AF1s" had.

[Eddylizard]

Originally Posted by Roadsterboy

I don't believe that all of the seating in the AF1s* is leather, but that there are "executive" seats covered with the stuff. Certainly the President's office on board has this. I think that some compartments have just standard style airliner seats. I also wouldn't be surprised if the planes have been remodeled at least once already-they were ordered during the Reagan administration, after all.

-RB

*Air Force Ones, which is easier to type than SAM 2800 and 2900. I suppose I could have gone with "SAMs" but didn't, and have now pretty much wasted any advantage that typing "AF1s" had.

I think we're singing from the same sheet here, but if the seats needed replacing, the difference between leather and cloth upholstery in the scheme of replacing the seats would probably be negligable. The cloth seats would also have needed replacing at some stage, and as I said, a new seat would be quicker, and more cost effective than removing, re-upholstering and refitting the existing seats.

[Photo Bob]

Irregardless of how the seats are upholstered, I would think after eight years the seats would have some pretty serious butt grooves and replacement would be necessary just for the sake of comfort.

[FullMetal]

To be honest, I actually assumed that the president's planes would be re-done after each presidential switch. kind of like the White-house gets personalized for each president. (or even the Canadian Prime minister's official residence, or the Leader of the Opposition's official residence) new furniture is usually the order for the day, why would the airplane be any different? I can see the press seating would probabally be overlooked a little more than the office. But if Obama's evil for re-doing the interior, Reagan must be really evil for replacing the whole plane!

I'm also assuming that he wouldn't just order the replacement of the seats, but probabally a refurbishment/modernization of the entire interior. carpets, lighting, etc. and I can see that running into the million dollar mark, in fact if it was only one million, that's a steal for reconditioning two executive 747s.

[WildaBeast]

Originally Posted by Eddylizard

I think we're singing from the same sheet here, but if the seats needed replacing, the difference between leather and cloth upholstery in the scheme of replacing the seats would probably be negligable. The cloth seats would also have needed replacing at some stage, and as I said, a new seat would be quicker, and more cost effective than removing, re-upholstering and refitting the existing seats.

For that matter, many regular airlines (which are typically very cost concious), have replaced their cloth seats with leather ones. Even though it costs more up front, they're more durable and easier to clean, so they save maintanence costs in the long run.

[Mr. Plow]

They're looking to replace them in the near future. But, they would need to be kept up in the mean time.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4750493.shtml

[snopes]

Comment: Now this should tell the American people (who care) something...
Subject: Michelle Obama trip.......Interesting Information!
...It explains a lot!
I was at Blockbusters on Saturday renting videos, and I was going along
the wall and there was a video
called "Obama". I told the men next to me that I wouldn't waste my time.
We started talking about Obama.
These guys were Arabs, and I asked them why they thought Michele Obama
headed home following her visit in France instead of traveling on to Saudi
Arabia and Turkey with her husband.
They said she couldn't go to Saudi Arabia , Turkey or Iraq .
I said "Laura Bush went to Saudia Arabia , Turkey , Dubai."
They answered, "Obama is a Muslim, and by Muslim law, he would not be
allowed to bring his wife into the countries that accept Sharia Law."
Just thought it was interesting that the Arabs at Blockbuster's accept the
idea that we're being led by a Muslim who follows the Islamic creed...
They also said that's the reason he bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia .
It was a signal
to the Muslim world.
Just thought you would like to know.
Odd, I thought HE SAID he was a Christian. Now he wouldn't lie to us would
he?

[Natalie]

Originally Posted by snopes

Just thought it was interesting that the Arabs at Blockbuster's accept the
idea that we're being led by a Muslim who follows the Islamic creed...

Think about this for a few seconds. Your sources are random. people. at. the. video. store.

[Ellestar]

Originally Posted by snopes

Odd, I thought HE SAID he was a Christian. Now he wouldn't lie to us would
he?

Odd. A few "Arabs" at the Blockbuster couldn't be mistaken about Obama's religion, could they?



(Plus how would they know? Is he wearing a button that says "I'm Muslim" that only other Muslims could see?)