The Hildabeast

[snopes]

WHAT A SWEET, WONDERFUL PERSON THE HILDABEAST IS.

Cheers to the Truth!

"Where is the G-damn f**king flag? I want the G-damn f**king flag up every f**king morning at f**king sunrise."
(From the book "Inside The White House" by Ronald Kessler, p. 244 - Hillary to the staff at the Arkansas Governor's mansion on Labor Day, 1991)

"You sold out, you mother f**ker! You sold out!"
From the book "Inside" by Joseph Califano, p. 213 - Hillary yelling at Democrat lawyer.

"It's been said, and I think it's accurate, that my husband was obsessed by terrorism in general and al-qaida in particular."
(Hillary telling a post-9/11 world what a 'great' commander in chief her husband was; Dateline, NBC 4/16/2004.)

"I have to admit that a good deal of what my husband and I have learned [about Islam] has come from our daughter."
(TruthInMedia.org 8/8/1999 - Hillary at a White House function, proudly tells some Muslim groups she is gaining a greater appreciation of Islam because Chelsea was then taking a class on the "religion of peace")

"F**k off! It's enough that I have to see you shit-kickers every day, I'm not going to talk to you too!! Just do your G*damn job and keep your mouth shut."
(From the book "American Evita" by Christopher Anderson, p. 90 - Hillary to her State Trooper bodyguards after one of them greeted her with "Good morning."

"You f**king idiot."
(From the book "Crossfire" p. 84 - Hillary to a State Trooper who was driving her to an event.)

"If you want to remain on this detail, get your f**king ass over here and grab those bags!"
(From the book "The First Partner" p. 259 - Hillary to a Secret Service Agent who was reluctant to carry her luggage because he wanted to keep his hands free in case of an incident.)

"Get f**ked! Get the f**k out of my way!!! Get out of my face!!!"
(From the book "Hillary's Scheme" p. 89 - Hillary's various comments to her Secret Service detail agents.)

"Stay the f**k back, stay the f**k away from me! Don't come within ten yards of me, or else! Just f**king do as I say, Okay!!!?"
(From the book "Unlimited Access", by Clinton FBI Agent in Charge, Gary Aldrige, p. 139 - Hillary screaming at her Secret Service detail.)

"Many of you are well enough off that [President Bush's] tax cuts may have helped you. We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to have to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."
(Hillary grandstanding at a fund raising speech in San Francisco; SFGate.com 6/28/2004.)

"Why do I have to keep proving to people that I am not a liar?!"
(From the book "The Survivor," by John Harris, p. 382 - Hillary in her 2000 Senate campaign)

"Where's the miserable c*ck sucker?"
(From the book "The Truth About Hillary" by Edward Klein, p. 5 - Hillary shouting at a Secret Service officer)

"No matter what you think about the Iraq war, there is one thing we can all agree on for the next days - we have to salute the courage and bravery of those who are risking their lives to vote and those brave Iraqi and American soldiers fighting to protect their right to vote.
(Was posted on Hillary Clinton's senate.gov web site on 1/28/05)

"Put this on the ground! I left my sunglasses in the limo. I need those sunglasses. We need to go back!"
(From the book "Dereliction of Duty" p. 71-72 - Hillary to Marine One helicopter pilot to turn back while en route to Air Force One.)

"A right-wing network was after his presidency...including perverting the Constitution."
(To Barbara Walters about the Republicans who impeached her husband; 20/20, ABC 6/8/2003.)

"Son of a bitch."
(From the book "American Evita" by Christopher Anderson, p. 259 - Hillary's opinion of President George W. Bush when she found out he secretly visited Iraq just days before her highly publicized trip to Iraq)

"What are you doing inviting these people into my home? These people are our enemies! They are trying to destroy us!"
(From the book "The Survivor" by John Harris, p. 99 - Hillary screaming to an aide, when she found out that some Republicans had been invited to the Clinton White House)

"I mean, you've got a conservative and right-wing press presence with really nothing on the other end of the political spectrum."
(C-Span, 1/19/1997 - Hillary complains about the mainstream media, which are all conservatives in her opinion)

"Come on Bill, put your dick up! You can't f**k her here!!"
(From the book "Inside The White House" by Ronald Kessler, p. 243 - Hillary to Gov. Clinton when she spots him talking with an attractive female at an Arkansas political rally)

"You know, I'm going to start thanking the woman who cleans the restroom in the building I work in. I'm going to start thinking of her as a human being" -Hillary Clinton
(From the book "The Case Against Hillary Clinton" by Peggy Noonan, p. 55)

"You show people what you're willing to fight for when you fight your friends."
(From the book "The Agenda" by Bob Woodward, ch. 14)

"We are at a stage in history in which remolding society is one of the great challenges facing all of us in the West."
(From the book "I've Always Been A Yankee Fan" by Thomas D. Kuiper, p. 119 - During her 1993 commencement address at the University of Texas)

"The only way to make a difference is to acquire power"
(From the book "I've Always Been A Yankee Fan" by Thomas D. Kuiper, p. 68 - Hillary to a friend before starting law school.)

"We just can't trust the American people to make those types of choices.... Government has to make those choices for people"
(From the book "I've Always Been A Yankee Fan" by Thomas D. Kuiper, p. 20 - Hillary to Rep. Dennis Hastert in 1993 discussing her expensive, disastrous taxpayer-funded health care plan)

"I am a fan of the social policies that you find in Europe" Hillary in 1996" From the book "I've Always Been A Yankee Fan" by Thomas D. Kuiper, p. 76 - Hillary in 1996)

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This ill-tempered, violent, foul mouthed, hateful and abusive woman wants to be your president and have total control as commander-in-chief of a military that her party so openly and proudly admit they detest. I can see someone like this gaining the respect of other nations, and especially from their leaders, who refuse to do as she tells them ...or else. No thanks, my country deserves a better leader, not a dominatrix!

[rogue74656]

I keep seeing this comment but have always discounted it as just more conservative retoric.

"...a military that her party so openly and proudly admit they detest. "

I can not for the life of me remember any such admission from the Democrats.

As to her use of profanity...what of the Republicans?
The vice-pres telling a senator to "f**k yourself" during a debate?

-Rogue

[BlueStar]

From the book "The Case Against Hillary Clinton"

There's nothing like impartial sources...

However most of the things she said I see no problem with anyway, and I'm sure if people forwarded quotes of every time I swore they'd get the impression I was a right f****** c***.

[Tarquin Farquart]

Originally Posted by snopes

"No matter what you think about the Iraq war, there is one thing we can all agree on for the next days - we have to salute the courage and bravery of those who are risking their lives to vote and those brave Iraqi and American soldiers fighting to protect their right to vote.
(Was posted on Hillary Clinton's senate.gov web site on 1/28/05)

What's wrong with that?

[Richard W]

Hillary Clinton isn't a Hildabeast anyway - a Hildabeast is somebody who studied at St. Hilda's College, Oxford. It doesn't even sound much like "Hillary". It took me a moment to get the connection between the title and the piece.

I can't see what's wrong with half of those statements either (given that some are clearly out-of-context, like the one about treating the toilet cleaner as a human being, which is fairly reasonable, but I guess you're supposed to say "She thinks toilet cleaners are subhuman!!!" when she's saying the opposite.)

So she swears sometimes? How unladylike. And when you think about it, being President is quite unladylike too, isn't it? Gosh, perhaps she shouldn't be trying to assert herself against men...

[Floater]

And if they are trying to make a connection between Mrs Clinton and a gnu (hm, I didn't know that gnus use foul language) they should spell it Hildebeest.

[Lainie]

Originally Posted by snopes

"I have to admit that a good deal of what my husband and I have learned [about Islam] has come from our daughter."
(TruthInMedia.org 8/8/1999 - Hillary at a White House function, proudly tells some Muslim groups she is gaining a greater appreciation of Islam because Chelsea was then taking a class on the "religion of peace")

Um, I get that they don't believe Islam is a religion of peace, but how does it make Hillary evil that she learned about it from her daughter? And she didn't swear once!

"No matter what you think about the Iraq war, there is one thing we can all agree on for the next days - we have to salute the courage and bravery of those who are risking their lives to vote and those brave Iraqi and American soldiers fighting to protect their right to vote.
(Was posted on Hillary Clinton's senate.gov web site on 1/28/05)

Um, what's the problem with this one?

"You show people what you're willing to fight for when you fight your friends."
(From the book "The Agenda" by Bob Woodward, ch. 14)

What's wrong with putting principle above alliance?

"We are at a stage in history in which remolding society is one of the great challenges facing all of us in the West."
(From the book "I've Always Been A Yankee Fan" by Thomas D. Kuiper, p. 119 - During her 1993 commencement address at the University of Texas)

Sounds like she was quoting Thomas D. Kuiper. This doesn't even make it clear whether she agrees with him or not.

"The only way to make a difference is to acquire power"
(From the book "I've Always Been A Yankee Fan" by Thomas D. Kuiper, p. 68 - Hillary to a friend before starting law school.)

Absolutely, and obviously, true. Why should she pretend otherwise?

No thanks, my country deserves a better leader, not a dominatrix!

(Emphasis mine). That's a rather oddly sexualized insult.

[Richard W]

Originally Posted by Lainie

(Emphasis mine). That's a rather oddly sexualized insult.

Well, what else can you call a woman who asserts herself over men? It can't be a non-sexual thing, because there's no way to think about women without thinking about sex. She's only doing it to tease. They all are. Would you want a stumbling block as President?

This also nicely illustrates the perversity of homosexuality. Red-blooded males can't look at Hillary Clinton without imagining her dressed in a leather basque and wielding a whip. So what are those gays thinking about when they watch Bush and Cheney being all manly? It doesn't bear thinking about... (shudder). If that doesn't make you realise how wrong they are, then nothing will.

I wonder if it's worth checking the references in the OP. I haven't got any of those books. But none of them seem that unbelievable, and it's a pretty weak "case" anyway...

[Stoneage Dinosaur]

"Where is the G-damn f**king flag? I want the G-damn f**king flag up every f**king morning at f**king sunrise."

Surely even the most anti-Hillary of patriotic Americans would approve of her wanting the flag flown every day?

"I am a fan of the social policies that you find in Europe"

Yes, who would want such a hateful person to become president.

[Lainie]

Originally Posted by Richard W

This also nicely illustrates the perversity of homosexuality. Red-blooded males can't look at Hillary Clinton without imagining her dressed in a leather basque and wielding a whip. So what are those gays thinking about when they watch Bush and Cheney being all manly? It doesn't bear thinking about... (shudder). If that doesn't make you realise how wrong they are, then nothing will.

I once read an account by Karl Rove of the first time he met George W. Bush. It was, to quote a friend I shared it with, "Mr. Smithers-ish."

"You show people what you're willing to fight for when you fight your friends."

I understand now. To the people who set this thing up, being loyal to your friends should be higher than supporting the truth. Now I get a lot of things about the current administration.

Also: This is going to be a LONG and UGLY 2008 race.....

[matches]

Originally Posted by Lainie

Um, I get that they don't believe Islam is a religion of peace, but how does it make Hillary evil that she learned about it from her daughter? And she didn't swear once!

Not in any way to defend the concept of the quote collection, was to illustrate the duplicity of statements between the 1999 quote to Islamic supporters, and her statements about her husband's obsession with Alquieda.

Essentially, if he was in fact obsessed with the concept of terrorism, I doubt that he would be getting most of his information on the subject of Islam from his Daughter. Or perhaps there is a racist notion in this, that they feel that both statments are correct, which shows that the Clintons do not understand the ties between Islam and terrorism.

Personally, I can think of more and better reasons to discount Hillary as a president with out these taken out of context quotes, but mostly just that there seem to be smarter and better candidates running against her.

Between Edwards and Obama I think Hillary is runnign catch up on both personality and ideas, which is not a place to be, even with a great deal of money behind you.

But that's just my opinion.

[matches]

Originally Posted by snopes

"Many of you are well enough off that [President Bush's] tax cuts may have helped you. We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to have to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."
(Hillary grandstanding at a fund raising speech in San Francisco; SFGate.com 6/28/2004.)

Is it just me or is this a messured intellegent statment about why we would have to undue the president's tax cuts for the wealthy?

It seems like an odd thing to include in your diatriabe of Hillary, unless you are so lost in your anti tax notion as to feel any increase in taxes on anybody is a sign of government overeach, in which case just about any politician is going to be anathema to you.

I mean this is at a fund rasier, so its obviously directed at wealthy people, and shows that she's not just raising taxes because she hates the rich, but for "the greater good".

If there was another quote following it to contradict it (as with the alquida and Islam quotes) I'd understand it, but it's a stand alone.

So what's the point with that one? Usually these things are meant to be ultrapopulist screeds deriding the Clintons top down managment style, and contempt for regular folk (which the other quotes uphold), this quote effectivly undoes this notion, showing a reasoned person giving unwanted news to her wealthier constituants.

Sheesh if you can't even pick good quotes to take out of context, why even bother?

[keokuk]

"F**k off! It's enough that I have to see you shit-kickers every day, I'm not going to talk to you too!! Just do your G*damn job and keep your mouth shut."
(From the book "American Evita" by Christopher Anderson, p. 90 - Hillary to her State Trooper bodyguards after one of them greeted her with "Good morning."

"Get f**ked! Get the f**k out of my way!!! Get out of my face!!!"
(From the book "Hillary's Scheme" p. 89 - Hillary's various comments to her Secret Service detail agents.)

"Stay the f**k back, stay the f**k away from me! Don't come within ten yards of me, or else! Just f**king do as I say, Okay!!!?"
(From the book "Unlimited Access", by Clinton FBI Agent in Charge, Gary Aldrige, p. 139 - Hillary screaming at her Secret Service detail.)

"Why do I have to keep proving to people that I am not a liar?!"
(From the book "The Survivor," by John Harris, p. 382 - Hillary in her 2000 Senate campaign)

"Come on Bill, put your dick up! You can't f**k her here!!"
(From the book "Inside The White House" by Ronald Kessler, p. 243 - Hillary to Gov. Clinton when she spots him talking with an attractive female at an Arkansas political rally)

Why do I get the sense that the writer embellished some of the punctuation here?

[Ryda Wong, EBfCo.]

See, this is one of the reasons I'd never, ever make it in politics. Despite my good-girl upbringing, I salt my speech quite liberally with worse language than that (sandwiched in between southernisms and words that, I've been told, no one else knows).
So I'd be low-class, dirty-mouthed, and stuck up.

[Ryda Wong, EBfCo.]

"A right-wing network was after his presidency...including perverting the Constitution."
(To Barbara Walters about the Republicans who impeached her husband; 20/20, ABC 6/8/2003.)I'd say this is reasonable. I'm not a fan of B. Clinton's personal behavior, and I think it is entirely immoral to pursue relationships with someone when you are their superior (i.e. work superior), but, still....



"Son of a bitch."
(From the book "American Evita" by Christopher Anderson, p. 259 - Hillary's opinion of President George W. Bush when she found out he secretly visited Iraq just days before her highly publicized trip to Iraq)Huh. I've called Shrub far worse things than that.


"What are you doing inviting these people into my home? These people are our enemies! They are trying to destroy us!"
(From the book "The Survivor" by John Harris, p. 99 - Hillary screaming to an aide, when she found out that some Republicans had been invited to the Clinton White House)
Again. A reasonable, if impolitic, reaction. I wasn't aware that everyone in politics had to be an automoton, with absolutly no emotions whatsoever.

"I mean, you've got a conservative and right-wing press presence with really nothing on the other end of the political spectrum."
(C-Span, 1/19/1997 - Hillary complains about the mainstream media, which are all conservatives in her opinion)Pretty much accurate.


"You show people what you're willing to fight for when you fight your friends."
(From the book "The Agenda" by Bob Woodward, ch. 14) Because not challenging people when they are your friends, and just letting them get away with anything because of your personal relationship is a good thing?


"We are at a stage in history in which remolding society is one of the great challenges facing all of us in the West."
(From the book "I've Always Been A Yankee Fan" by Thomas D. Kuiper, p. 119 - During her 1993 commencement address at the University of Texas) 100% agreed, and a point that MUST be reinforced in this election.

"I am a fan of the social policies that you find in Europe" Hillary in 1996" From the book "I've Always Been A Yankee Fan" by Thomas D. Kuiper, p. 76 - Hillary in 1996) I agree. Again, more of what we need.

[Lainie]

Originally Posted by matches

Not in any way to defend the concept of the quote collection, was to illustrate the duplicity of statements between the 1999 quote to Islamic supporters, and her statements about her husband's obsession with Alquieda.

Essentially, if he was in fact obsessed with the concept of terrorism, I doubt that he would be getting most of his information on the subject of Islam from his Daughter.

Information about Islam != Information about al Qaeda

[Bryan With a 'Y']

Originally Posted by First of Two

Wouldn't that more appropriately be a ">" sign?

Nope.

No more than if you were comparing knowledge of Christianity to knowledge of Jim Jones or David Koresh. You won't find them in the Bible, or in rational discussions of Christian theology. Learning about core Christian thought isn't going to take you where they went.

[matches]

Originally Posted by Lainie

Information about Islam != Information about al Qaeda

Knowledge of Islam would not be equal to knowledge of Alqaeda, however, if one were obsessed with Alqaeda one would presume that knowledge of their underlying philosophical tenants as they relate to Islam would be a necessary knowledge to gain.

As I said I am in no way interested in defending the arguments of the letter, I'm just explaining them.

If in 1999 Hillary says that most of her and Bill's knowledge of Islam came second hand from their daughter, it is unlikely that Bill at the same time was obsessed with Terrorism and the Islamic Terrorists of Alqaeda.

Obviously Simply studying Islam will not give you knowledge of Alqaeda, however it is hard to imagine one could study Alqaeda without gaining atleast a passing knowledge of Islam.

[inkrose115]

Actually, finding quotes said by peopleyou admire, and posting them in such a way as they can be totally misconstrued, sounds kinda fun. My kinda game! But then again, I'm so tired everything seems funny.


At least I have snopes to get me through the loooooong test render times. Esle I'd have nothing productive to do.