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Old 09 October 2008, 11:54 PM
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Comment: I was told a story by a co-worker about a women who won a law
suit involving the death of her husband by a postal truck; that she didn't
ask for any money settlement, but did ask for free postage for anyone by
printing the word "Frank" (her deceased husband's name) in the spot where
a stamp would go.
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Old 10 October 2008, 12:49 AM
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From the Online Etymology Dictionary:

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...Verbal sense of "to free a letter for carriage or an article for publication" (1708) is from Fr. affranchir, from the same source.
Now, about the "Norm," "Hi" and "Max" settings on car air conditioners, ...

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Old 10 October 2008, 01:06 AM
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Surely that would have been a bad deal to make, anyways. Even if she only would have received $10,000, that would pay for nearly 24,000 stamps.
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Old 10 October 2008, 01:15 AM
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Surely that would have been a bad deal to make, anyways. Even if she only would have received $10,000, that would pay for nearly 24,000 stamps.
But the deal was for free postage for anyone, not just for herself.
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Old 10 October 2008, 01:18 AM
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Well, then it's a bad deal all around.
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Old 10 October 2008, 01:23 AM
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If it makes her feel better, we used to call our franking machine Frank.
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Old 23 December 2008, 11:52 PM
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Comment: I work in a county jail so you believe none of what you hear and
only half of what you see. This is the rumor going around and they swear
it's true:

A man named Frank donated a huge amount of money to USPS so if you can't
afford postage simply write the word "Frank" where the stamp goes and your
letter will be sent for free.
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Old 24 December 2008, 05:24 AM
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I suppose there's one simple way to find out - send yourself a letter and write "Frank" on it with no stamp, and see if it arrives.

I don't know about the US, or even if it's still the custom here, but it used to be that if someone sent you a letter without a stamp or with insufficent postage, the post person would knock on your door, point out the senders error and ask for the normal postage fee plus a small penalty. You were of course within your rights to refuse the letter and not pay the fees.

I've worked in businesses that sometimes used a franking machine, but for sensitive mail put a postage stamp on instead. Maybe the rumour stems from a practice somewhere where the non-sensitive mail had 'Frank' written on it, so the postroom would know to frank it rather than use a stamp.
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Old 24 December 2008, 05:42 AM
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TUH! Everyone knows that the word 'frank' to refer to mail comes from the fact that Benjamin Franklin was the first postmaster general. Just as the vacuum for a while was called 'Hoover' and sewing machines were all called Singers, all mailing became to 'Franklin' it. Of course, that easily became confused with 'franking' it as people forgot the origin of the phrase, and then the gerund led to the verb 'to frank.'
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Old 24 December 2008, 08:19 PM
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I don't know about the US, or even if it's still the custom here, but it used to be that if someone sent you a letter without a stamp or with insufficent postage, the post person would knock on your door, point out the senders error and ask for the normal postage fee plus a small penalty. You were of course within your rights to refuse the letter and not pay the fees.
The current fee is 1 plus the deficit in postage (as in applies not only for unpaid postage, but also underpaid, when the letter is heavier (or larger) than paid for)
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I've worked in businesses that sometimes used a franking machine, but for sensitive mail put a postage stamp on instead. Maybe the rumour stems from a practice somewhere where the non-sensitive mail had 'Frank' written on it, so the postroom would know to frank it rather than use a stamp.
Not to hijack, but why would sensitive mail need a stamp, but non-sensitive mail could go through the postage machine?

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Not to hijack, but why would sensitive mail need a stamp, but non-sensitive mail could go through the postage machine?

-RB
Okay we were a Bank.

The postage machine/frank stamps "XYZ Bank" on the frank. Pretty bleeding obvious.

A lotta customers had accounts that by the laws of their own countries, they were not permitted to have - no outside interests allowed. Anything with a frank would be intercepted.

So to keep them safe, we posted all their mail to look like personal mail - person to person mail, like I'm sending you a birthday card - geddit?

Oh yeah, you know what? Someone NFBSK'd up once, put some guys mail through the franker, and yeah well the authorities shot him. No big deal for us, we had plenty more customers . We never made that mistake again.

ETA Having intercepted the guy's mail, the authorities in his country shot him, our bank did not shoot him.

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I don't know about the US, or even if it's still the custom here, but it used to be that if someone sent you a letter without a stamp or with insufficent postage, the post person would knock on your door, point out the senders error and ask for the normal postage fee plus a small penalty. You were of course within your rights to refuse the letter and not pay the fees.
It hasn't happened to me in ages, but I used to get a little envelope in the mailbox attached somehow to the letter with the amount due written on it. You were supposed to put the amount due in the little envelope and stick it back in the mailbox. There was no additional fee. Looking back, it seems like kind of a bad system, as it relied entirely on trust, but it never occurred to me to take the letter without leaving postage. I have also gotten letters sent back to me due to "insufficient postage" and once one sent back because I was supposedly reusing a stamp (I wasn't, but it wouldn't stick and I had to tape it on there).

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The current fee is 1 plus the deficit in postage (as in applies not only for unpaid postage, but also underpaid, when the letter is heavier (or larger) than paid for)
My secondary school once sent out a pointless letter to parents with no postage on it. It didn't make them very popular but made a grand for the Royal Mail!

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ETA Having intercepted the guy's mail, the authorities in his country shot him, our bank did not shoot him.
I can't quite work out if you're joking or not.
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Old 07 February 2013, 05:36 AM
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Comment: I heard that if you write Frankie on your letter in place of a
stamp you can mail it for free.......the story was that Frankie ( a young
boy ) was hit and killed by a mail truck, his parents sued the post
office. Being wealthy they wanted no money only wanted the post office to
take for free any mail that had Frankie written on it instead of a
stamp. I am trying to disprove this story, I think it's a crock of stinky
stuff.
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It hasn't happened to me in ages, but I used to get a little envelope in the mailbox attached somehow to the letter with the amount due written on it. You were supposed to put the amount due in the little envelope and stick it back in the mailbox. There was no additional fee.
Occasionally, if I mail something without enough postage, the carrier leaves an envelope in the box with the amount owed written on it; I'm to put the money in the envelope, and put it back out in the box. Whatever I mailed has presumably already gone on its way.-- and no, there's no additional fee. I've never heard of one in the USA.

Of course, this is a small town. I suspect that if I didn't pay up each time, in future they'd just bounce the mail back to me marked "insufficient postage". -- If I'm not sure whether one stamp will do it, sometimes I'll attach a sticky note asking them just to let me know if there's any extra amount.
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