Violent J - poet?

[TheLazenby]

I have a recording of Joe "Violent J" Bruce from Insane Clown Posse reading this very touching poem...

"I looked at you and smiled the other day
I thought you'd see me, but you didn't
I said I loved you and waited for what you'd say
I thought you'd hear me, but you didn't
I asked you to come outside and play ball with me
I thought you'd follow me, but you didn't
I drew a picture just for you to see
I thought you'd save it forever, but you didn't
I made a fort for you back in the woods
I thought you'd camp out with me, but you didn't
I found some worms and stuff for fishing
I thought you'd want to go with me, but you didn't
I needed you just to talk to, to share my thoughts with
I thought you'd want to, but you didn't
I told you about this game, hoping you'd show up to play
I thought you'd surely come, but you didn't
I asked you to share my youth with me
I thought you'd want to, but you couldn't
My country called me off to war
You asked me to come home safely, but I didn't."

I've never heard this poem anywhere else... so is this an older poem, or is Violent J actually a decent poet at heart??

[TheLazenby]

Damn, I spoke too soon. The true author of this poem was named Stan Gebhardt.

Oh well... still, great poem, and definitely a lot more heart-felt than the stuff we've come to expect from ICP!

[Richard W]

This is probably a stupid question, but Stan Gebhardt and Violent J aren't the same person, right? I assume that his parents didn't call him Violent J.

[Eddylizard]

Originally Posted by Richard W

This is probably a stupid question, but Stan Gebhardt and Violent J aren't the same person, right? I assume that his parents didn't call him Violent J.

Yomank.

[Richard W]

Originally Posted by Eddylizard

Yomank.

Hmm, thank you, but it was actually just a stupid question - I just noticed from the OP that Violent J's real name is Joe Bruce!

[TheLazenby]

Yeah, Stan Gebhardt doesn't sound like the name of a person who'd be successful in the rap music industry.

Even still, despite being half of one of the most notorious groups ever (and one of the most hated ever), Violent J actually seems to have a heart lurking somewhere in his clown-painted body... there was this occasion, there was a song he did about his mom, there was a song he did called "Family" which involved a few of his relatives, and apparently he was extremely consolatory to a mother who went to one of their shows after her son, who was a huge ICP fan, committed suicide.

Go J!

[Not_Done_Living]

ICP may be "dark clowns" but they are still humans.. underneath the clown makeup are real people with likes dislikes family and emotions.

Why do people feel that a personae=the person?

[TheLazenby]

Well yes, obviously I know that Joseph Bruce and Joseph Utsler aren't two clown-paint wearing homicidal maniacs.

You never know though... some people are pretty much exactly the same character they appear to be. I've heard Paul Mooney (from "Chappelle's Show") is a good example of that.