1973 vs. 2006

[Sister Ray]

I found this on anothe board. It is offensive in so many ways.

Subject: 1973 vs. 2006


True Stuff
Pretty sad situation

DIFFERENCE OF 30+ YEARS
Scenario: Jack pulls into school parking lot with rifle in gun rack.
1973 - Vice Principal comes over, takes a look at Jack's rifle, goes to his car and gets his to show Jack.
2006 - School goes into lockdown, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.

1973 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up best friends Nobody goes to jail, nobody arrested, nobody expelled.
2006 - Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark, charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Scenario: Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts other students.

1973 - Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by Principal. Sits still in class.
2006 - Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. School gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a disability.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his father's car and his Dad gives him a whipping.

1973 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.
2006 - Billy's Dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. Billy's sister is told by state psychologist that she remembers being abused herself and their Dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has affair with psychologist.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some headache medicine to school.

1973 - Mark shares headache medicine with Principal out on the smoking dock.
2006 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++

Scenario: Mary turns up pregnant.

1973 - 5 High School Boys leave town. Mary does her senior year at a special school for expectant mothers.
2006 - Middle School Counselor calls Planned Parenthood, who notifies the ACLU. Mary is driven to the next state over and gets an abortion without her parent's consent or knowledge. Mary given condoms and told to be more careful next time.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Scenario: Pedro fails high school English.

1973: Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.
2006: Pedro's cause is taken up by state democratic party. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English banned from core curriculum. Pedro given diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he can't speak English.
+++++++++++++++++++++

Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the 4th of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a red ant bed.

1973 - Ants die.
2006 - BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated, Johnny's Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed
to fly again.
+++++++++++++++++++++

Scenario: Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary, hugs him to comfort him.

1973 - In a short time Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
2006 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job.
She faces 3 years in State Prison.

Sister "because we all know no problems existed in 1973" Ray

[Artemis]

So...Pedro can't speak English, but going to summer school for high school English, he's going to be able to speak English and go on to college? Color me doubtful...

[Sister Ray]

Originally Posted by Artemis

So...Pedro can't speak English, but going to summer school for high school English, he's going to be able to speak English and go on to college? Color me doubtful...

I would find it impressive if *anyone* could learn to be fluent in a language after being taught for only 2/3 months.

Sister "it doesn't work that way" Ray

[llewtrah]

If Jeffrey is given a good paddling, there's no way he'll be able to sit still. He'll be standing up for the rest of the day.

[pinqy]

Originally Posted by Artemis

So...Pedro can't speak English, but going to summer school for high school English, he's going to be able to speak English and go on to college? Color me doubtful...

Originally Posted by Sister Ray

I would find it impressive if *anyone* could learn to be fluent in a language after being taught for only 2/3 months.

Sister "it doesn't work that way" Ray

Why are you two assuming that the reason Pedro failed English was that he doesn't speak or isn't fluent in English?

pinqy

[Sister Ray]

Originally Posted by pinqy

Why are you two assuming that the reason Pedro failed English was that he doesn't speak or isn't fluent in English?

pinqy

Because of his name, I guessed that's what they were trying to imply. It isn't a "kids are given a free ride in class" thing, it was a "TEH EBIL EMEGRANTS!" thing.

Sister "after all he must be one because no american would give a kid that name" Ray

[geminilee]

Because his name is Pedro, duh!

ETA: spanked by Sister Ray, which is not allowed in schools anymore.

Originally Posted by Sister Ray

I would find it impressive if *anyone* could learn to be fluent in a language after being taught for only 2/3 months..

Well, back in '73 we would... and we would be glad.....

I can't believe they've now "updated" the ol' "When I was a kid...." thing to "my" generation. I feel old.

[Skeptic]

Originally Posted by Sister Ray

I would find it impressive if *anyone* could learn to be fluent in a language after being taught for only 2/3 months.

I work with a Czech guy who learnt English quite well in about 3 months. Not in classes, just in a big workplace.

[Sister Ray]

Originally Posted by Skeptic

I work with a Czech guy who learnt English quite well in about 3 months. Not in classes, just in a big workplace.

He probably had no one around that spoke Czech. It's easier to learn a language if no one talks to you in your first language. Unless Pedro's parents stop speaking to him in Spanish, it will be harder for him.

Sister "and i'm willing to bet they won't" Ray

[matches]

Originally Posted by Sister Ray

He probably had no one around that spoke Czech. It's easier to learn a language if no one talks to you in your first language. Unless Pedro's parents stop speaking to him in Spanish, it will be harder for him.

Sister "and i'm willing to bet they won't" Ray

Actually having another language spoken in the house has little to no effect on a child's ability to learn the dominant language of a culture. This is why children of immigrants often act as translators for their parents.

A child growing up in a foreign country will learn to speak the language presnted to them on television, and in the surrounding community, only if the child is living in an exclusivly ethnic enclave, or is a recent immigrant himself (a possibility for pedro, in wich case however he would be taking easl classes in addition to his normal classes in most districts) would his parent's native language pose a major hurdle for Pedro.

In truth, pressuming the child had spoken english well enough to get into an american highschool, it seems unlikely that his needing to take a summer school course would have been for anything other than minor grammar issues, and not actual language issues.

If his problem could be solved in summer school, he probably spooke english no worse than most americans. If he couldn't speak the language at all, english wouldn't have been his only class he needed summer school for.

[Simply Madeline]

1973 - President's advisors commit perjury to cover up an illegal act

2006 - Vice President's advisors commit perjury to cover up an illegal act

See how much better things have gotten?

ETA: Why 1973? Why not, say, 1976? It's more symmetrical

[Canuckistan]

1973 - Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by Principal. Sits still in class.

Really? I find this highly unlikely.

[Simply Madeline]

Originally Posted by Canuckistan

Really? I find this highly unlikely.

Me, too. I was in grammar school in 1973, and neither teachers nor principals were not allowed to 'paddle' students then.

ETA: Or do you find it unlikely that he was able to sit (still or not) in class after the incident?

[llewtrah]

Originally Posted by Simply Madeline

Me, too. I was in grammar school in 1973, and neither teachers nor principals were not allowed to 'paddle' students then.

ETA: Or do you find it unlikely that he was able to sit (still or not) in class after the incident?

I was at primary school in 1973 and misbehaving kids were sent to the headmaster to be smacked with the slipper.

[robbiev]

Originally Posted by Simply Madeline

Me, too. I was in grammar school in 1973, and neither teachers nor principals were not allowed to 'paddle' students then.

ETA: Or do you find it unlikely that he was able to sit (still or not) in class after the incident?

Just clarifying: you saying they were not allowed to paddle students back then?

I was in high school in the 80s, and they still paddled students. Not common, but it happened.

ETA: already spanked by others

[texaschristian]

Originally Posted by Simply Madeline

Me, too. I was in grammar school in 1973, and neither teachers nor principals were not allowed to 'paddle' students then.

I was paddled. In public school. My parents signed a consent form at the beginning of the year.

I graduated in 1999.

[Jeffrey]

1985 - Jeffrey can't be still in class & falls behind in his work -- Parents notified of his struggles & class disruptions & it is left up to them how to handle it or he will repeat the grade or moved to BD.

God forbid we take responsibility & beat the crap out of our own kids. C'mon 1973 parents -- grow a pair.

Jeffrey

[Hero_Mike]

Originally Posted by Canuckistan

Really? I find this highly unlikely.

Really now? Some school boards in Canada, Ontario, and even the GTA and Golden Horseshoe, still had corporal punishment in elementary schools as late as 1983/4.

Originally Posted by Hero_Mike

Really now? Some school boards in Canada, Ontario, and even the GTA and Golden Horseshoe, still had corporal punishment in elementary schools as late as 1983/4.

The school in Alabama have corporal punishment TODAY.