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Old 21 April 2008, 08:00 PM
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If your father was an athiest, your grandfather was a Muslim, your great-grandfather was a Christian, and a couple generations further back your family was practicing a native Luo religion with ancestor worship, then exactly what religious "descent" are you anyways?
I would say none.
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Old 21 April 2008, 08:32 PM
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I thought it was his mother that was an atheist.
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Old 21 April 2008, 08:42 PM
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She is, IIRC. His birth father is Muslim.
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Old 21 April 2008, 09:25 PM
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His father became an atheist, too.
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Old 21 April 2008, 09:46 PM
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Actually, that sounds almost exactly like a show i watched that said it was a Nostradamus prediction. Some time around 2002 or after, i heard that it wasn't really his prediction, but something made up by college students. I watched the show in the 90's at the latest.

It was either Saddam or Osama that was supposed to be the anti-Christ wearing a blue turban.
I remember the "blue turban" quote being applied to Hillary Clinton, as she wore at her husband's inaugural (first or second? I don't remember) a hat that resembeled a turban.
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Old 21 April 2008, 10:13 PM
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I'm surprised Nostradamus would even have mentioned something so specific as a blue turban.
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Old 22 April 2008, 12:53 AM
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My daughter came over to give me a perm and a trim today, and she told me this ridiculous story. Thank you, LizzyBean, for that link; I'm going to show her the page the next time she's here.
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I thought it was his mother that was an atheist.
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She is, IIRC. His birth father is Muslim.

His grandfather converted to Islam, but his father became an athiest before Barack was ever born. His mother has been portrayed as a little more agnostic than athiest, but she certainly wasn't a part of any organized religion either.
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Old 23 April 2008, 02:56 AM
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Whaow - you're right.

We're screwed.
"That's great
It starts with an earthquake
Birds, snakes and airplanes
Lenny Bruce is not afraid..."

What? Somebody had to do it!
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Old 23 April 2008, 02:31 PM
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I received a big ole "WHATEVER!" to my "friend's" response. Ignorant people make me giggle.
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Old 23 April 2008, 04:11 PM
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I received this from a "friend" this morning, and sent her back a nasty reply, including this link. And she's a teacher for DOYC's sake!

*blech*
Thanks - great link! I think I may have to start saying "that's not just wrong, it's 'pants on fire' wrong!"
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Old 23 April 2008, 07:46 PM
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I thought Ronald Wilson Reagan (6 letters each name) was supposed to be the antichrist. The world ended years ago, we're just to stubborn to notice...

In terms of the end of the world and good music (see Zorro's post above), I've noticed that Stairway to heaven could be interpreted (insert scary music here :o ) as a prophecy predicting 9/11.

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There's a feeling I get when I look to the west
And my spirit is crying for leaving
Large amount of death (leaving spirits) in a western nation.

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In my thoughts I have seen rings of smoke through the trees
And the voices of those who stand looking
Buildings are tall like trees. And where there's smoke, there's fire and destruction.

I could go on, though I'm not sure how far past the line between poor taste and edgy satire this would go. It's probably too soon still.
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Old 24 April 2008, 06:57 PM
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"According to the Book of Revelations the anti-christ is: The anti-christ
will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations
with persuassive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the
prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope
and world peace, and when he is in power, will destory everything. Is it
OBAMA??"
According to the Bible (Very little information in Revelation, but the Epistles of John, Thessalonians, the Book of Daniel, and various apocrypha), the Antichrist will be a Hebrew man, probably from the Tribe of Dan. He will sit in the temple and deny that Jesus Christ. He will perform supernatural signs and claim divine authority to attract a following, not just charm the nations. He may even claim to be the true Messiah, and that Jesus was the pretender. He will be assassinated but revived by Satan, and endure three years with mortal wounds. In that three years, he will not only promise but deliver world peace before being defeated by Jesus in His return.

At the very least, Obama is going to have to pull a miracle or two out of his bum to meet the requirements. And I don't count winning the election as a miracle - I want calmed hurricanes and parted seas.
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Old 24 April 2008, 09:08 PM
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According to the Bible (Very little information in Revelation, but the Epistles of John, Thessalonians, the Book of Daniel, and various apocrypha), the Antichrist will be a Hebrew man, probably from the Tribe of Dan
That would make it impossible for him to pass as the messiah. One of the criteria for the messiah is that he be a descendant of King David, and apparently david was from the tribe of judah.
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Old 25 April 2008, 01:57 AM
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Actually, the Bible does not say that a future world dictator will be called the "Antichrist," will arise. The word "antichrist" appears only in two books of the Bible, and both are in the New Testament. There are I and II John. John is referring to the Gnostics--or some forerunners to them--who did not believe that Jesus Christ was a mortal man with a flesh-and-blood body who died on the cross and was resurrected. They believed that Jesus was a pure spirit being because they regarded the physical body as inherently evil and the spirit as inherently good. John stated that this teaching is "the spirit of the antichrist."

The book of Revelation was written to give a warning and bring hope to Christians in Asia Minor (modern-day Turkey) who feared persecution from the Roman Emperor Domitian at around 95 C.E. Passages like Revelation chapter 13 and 17 denounce the cult of emperor worship. And Revelation 19proclaims its defeat.

It was Ireneas early in the second century who thought that the antithesis of Christ would be a Jew from the tribe of Dan.

Finally, this name-the-antichrist game has been going on for centuries. And to proclaim any fairly decent individual as the full epitomy of evil is libelous and defamatory!

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Old 15 October 2008, 09:55 PM
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Icon27 In political smear e-mail, the devil's in the details

Only "a nut or a con artist" would say Barack Obama might be the Antichrist of the Book of Revelation, says a Baptist pastor in South Texas.

Unfortunately for the Rev. John Tisdale, that e-mail is circling the world signed with his name.

http://www.star-telegram.com/news/co...ry/975000.html
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Old 15 October 2008, 10:08 PM
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Only "a nut or a con artist" would say Barack Obama might be the Antichrist of the Book of Revelation, says a Baptist pastor in South Texas.

Unfortunately for the Rev. John Tisdale, that e-mail is circling the world signed with his name.

http://www.star-telegram.com/news/co...ry/975000.html
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Tisdale wrote: "I never thought Id see the day that Id hear something like that from a presidential candidate.  . . .  Our forefathers fought and died for our nation to be a Christian nation."
I guess he didn't read the Treaty of Tripoli (ratified unanimously by the Senate and signed by John Adams in 1796):

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Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; ...
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Old 15 October 2008, 10:13 PM
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I guess he didn't read the Treaty of Tripoli (ratified unanimously by the Senate and signed by John Adams in 1796)
http://www.tektonics.org/qt/tripoli.html
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Comment: Can you explain if President Obama's Chicago Zip is 60606,
indicating a clear relationship the anti-christ's "mark of the beast" 666?
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Old 22 October 2010, 05:36 AM
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60615, not 60606:

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/50...50904051_zpid/
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