New Russian Jet Fighter Su-30

[snopes]

Comment: Can you verify the authenticity of this clip? I believe I saw this several years ago?

http://bobandsylvia.com/FIGHTER.htm

[Richard W]

Wikipedia says they've been in service since 1996 and China already has them, so the text is misleading at least.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-30

I think I remember the display they talk about at the Paris air show of a demonstration model in 1993 - at least, I remember that around that time, there was the first display to the West of a Russian / ex-Soviet fighter that could do things that were quite surprising, and it looks similar to that one.

[BoKu]

...It can also recover from a flat spin in less than a minute...

Boy, that's got "smoky hole" written all over it. But then, that's sort of been a Russian tradition for the Paris Air Show...

My thinking is that the F-22 probably has the same sort of turning capability.

[Logoboros]

I'm guessing it's due to the lack of visual context, but I can't see what's supposed to be so awe-inspiring (or paranoia-inducing) about this footage -- even with the smoke trails.

--Logoboros

[Dreams of Thinking Machines]

Originally Posted by Logoboros

I'm guessing it's due to the lack of visual context, but I can't see what's supposed to be so awe-inspiring (or paranoia-inducing) about this footage -- even with the smoke trails.

--Logoboros

Here's a longer clip of a SU-30. They ought to show you what the vectoring and airframe of the plane can do.

[Edit: Ah, I also found a Russian documentary clip that has visual explanations of similar maneuvers performable in the Su-30's cousin the Su-37]

I've seen "similar" things done with an F-18. I've also talked to some fighter pilots about that aircraft and their line was somewhat like, "Good, they can stall it. Makes it easier to shoot down....".

[callee]

yeah, well, that may have been cool, but just wait till we invent these!

[Dark Blue]

yeah, well, that may have been cool, but just wait till we invent these!

Yeah that'll be cool but the inevitable genocide and attempted erradication of the human race by the Cylons will be a bit of a damper on the awe inspiring cabablities of that particular aircraft.

[damian]

Take them out with a few of these:

[Troberg]

Edit: Ah, I also found a Russian documentary clip that has visual explanations of similar maneuvers performable in the Su-30's cousin the Su-37

Do a Youtube search for Su-37 and you'll find many amazing clips. It's clear that the Russians know something about aerodynamics that the rest of the world hasn't figured out yet. The same goes for some of the civilian aerobatics aircraft they produce. Amazing aerodynamics performance, rugged, quick to get ready for the next mission.

I still think the ultimate fighter aircraft would be one of the top Russian/Soviet aircraft with western weapon systems (except maybe for the gun, the Soviets made some nice guns, although nice might be the wrong word in this case).

[Dreams of Thinking Machines]

Originally Posted by Troberg

Do a Youtube search for Su-37 and you'll find many amazing clips. It's clear that the Russians know something about aerodynamics that the rest of the world hasn't figured out yet. The same goes for some of the civilian aerobatics aircraft they produce. Amazing aerodynamics performance, rugged, quick to get ready for the next mission.

I still think the ultimate fighter aircraft would be one of the top Russian/Soviet aircraft with western weapon systems (except maybe for the gun, the Soviets made some nice guns, although nice might be the wrong word in this case).

The F-22 can do these thrust vectored flips as well.

Of course, both planes are pretty screwed if a missile has a lock on them. A human pilot just can't pull a 20 G turn.

[Jefuemon]

I think I'll take one of these instead

This one would take them all out.....

Originally Posted by Jefuemon

I think I'll take one of these instead

I understand why the aircraft can turn into a giant humanoid robot, but why is the third form a jet with legs? It's nonsensical!

[Jefuemon]

Originally Posted by rynder

I understand why the aircraft can turn into a giant humanoid robot, but why is the third form a jet with legs? It's nonsensical!

It's called "Gerwalk" form. Handles like a jet, but can move like in the humanoid form. Good for light urban enviroments. Also good for hovering.

Sorry, I'll go trim my anime beard now.

[Casey]

Originally Posted by Doug4.7

This one would take them all out.....

*moves P12 telepath to intercept*

Ha!