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Old 10 March 2008, 08:55 PM
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Read This! Instructions for released inmates

Comment: Hello! I'm a librarian who has gotten the same request twice in
the last week. It has to do with the letter attached. Apparently this is
being sent around prisons nationwide. I don't know if there is some sort
of program for ex-offenders, but I researched the citations given. The
RCW (Washington Code of Regulations) cites either don't exist or are not
applicable. The Public Law cites (they've smooshed two different laws
together) are not applicable. Is this something you could post? Thank
you so much!

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For: Ex offenders

Contact(s): Social Security Office
Welfare Department
State Rehabilitation Office

What do I do? Where do I go? Who do I talk to?

Go immediately upon release to the nearest Social Security Office and ask
to speak to a counselor so that you can apply for social security inurance
emergency supplement benefits of $1500.00. Explain that you are
emotionally and mentally unprepared to hold a job, show then your parole
or mandatory release papers, in order to prove you are just out of prison.
(NOTE you should receive a check within 72 hours) While at the office,
fill out the necessary forms for the $310.00 monthly disability benefits
for every month you were incarcerated.

Now, go to the nearest WELFARE DEPARTMENT OFFICE and apply for the GENERAL
RELIEF. Again show them your parole or mandatory release papers as proof
that you are just out of prison. Tell them you need financial assistance
immediately! A check should be issued to you within 2 hours. It should be
for approximately $150.00. Also, apply for FOOD STAMPS while you are there
you should recieve about $110.00 worth while you are there be sure to
obtain your medical card for health protection benefits. (NOTE this card
can be used at any doctor's office)

SSI
a. $1500.00-one time payment
b. $300.00-3 months payment
c. $228.00-per month payment
d. $168.00-per month payment

VOCATIONAL
a. $1900.00-for auto expense
b. $300.00-for work clothes
c. $400.00-for casual clothes
d. $$$$$-for work tools

UPON YOUR RELEASE :
1. About two months prior to release send a letter to the regional
director of the social security department asking for an application for
$980.00 under SSI. Tell him you have seen and been approved for parole or
your release date and city you will be living in. You can't receive
benefits while in prison, but your letter serves as an application. Under
RCW 74.29.205, RCW 72.02.040 and Public Law 93.365.92.603 as an ex-convict
you are classified as a disadvantaged minority. (IF YOU HAVE A JOB WAITING
YOU WILL NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS BENEFIT)

2. Under the same citations as quoted in #1, you can write the DEPARTMENT
OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES in your city or county, to get a list for LOW
INCOME HOUSING.

3. Upon your release if you have no job waiting you can go to the Dept. of
Social Services and apply for food stamps. Approximately $180.00 is
available if you qualify.

4. Even if you rent a room if your income is below a certain level you are
eligible in many states for a one time a year fuel assistance payment
through your social services.

5. To help you get a job in the trade in which you are qualified and the
job requires tools and/or special clothing, go to the DEPARTMENT OF
VOCATIONAL REHABILITATION.

6. If you wish to start your own business, the SMALL BUSINESS
ADMINISTRATIONS can help. You must present a business plan to at least
three banks and be turned down by them before approaching the SBA. The SBA
can loan you up to $24,000.00 which the SBA guarantees to the bank. Under
the retired businessman plan a sucessful small business owner, (who is
retired) will help you formulate your business plan at no charge. They
will also loan you up to $1000.00 more if a work vehicle is needed of
course you must present a business plan which shows a chance for success.

7. Under the dept. of labor insurance plan, the government will ensure
your bonding if needed for a job.

8. Targeted JOB TAX CREDITS is a benefit for the employers willing to hire
ex-convicts. The employer will receive a $3000.00 "TAX WRITE OFF" the
first year and a $1500.00 one the next. If the employer is training you in
a skill the government will pay half of your wages for the first year, in
addition to the tax-cut the employer receives.

9. As an ex-convict you are classified as a disadvantaged minority, thus
you are eligible for vocational training schooling, as well as the
benefits mentioned above. (YOU NEED TO BE AWARE OF THE FACT THAT MANY
STATE AND FEDERALLY OPERATED PROGRAMS DON'T WANT TO BE BOTHERED WITH
EX-CONVICTS, IN SUCH CASES ALWAYS BRING THE PROPER LAWS AND DOCUMENTS
STATING YOU ARE ENTITLED TO RECEIVE THESE BENEFITS.)

DO THIS WITHIN TEN DAYS OF YOUR RELEASE
Go to the STATE REHABILITATION CENTER where you can apply for various
federally funded loans and grants.
If you want to start a small business make a list of the approx. cost of
all equipment you will need. (i.e. tools, work clothes, etc.) and an
estimate for how much operating cash you will need to start up the
business. Until it starts to make a living for you. They may loan you up
to $50,000.00

If you need to be bonded for employment by a private employer you can
obtain the bond from and US district Court. Go to the probation and parole
department it should take less than an hour to have the validated forms in
your hand. You are qualified because you are on SSI. The WELFARE DEPT.
will automatically send you $228.00 per month for financial assistance and
utility. SSI is the same in every state!

A. Go to the DEPT. OF VOCATIONAL REHABILITATION because you are on SSI

B. A convicted felon is a depressed minority. You also qualify for a
certain benefit package. The amount of this package is $1900.00 to be used
for a down payment on a vehicle. The car must be used to go back and forth
to work.

C. You will also receive $300.00 for clothing on the job and another
$400.00 for tools. These are grants and DO NOT have to be paid back.
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Old 10 March 2008, 09:08 PM
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Yeah, so?

If the OP is trying to make the point that our government is too nice and just hands things over to teh evil ex-cons and other lazies, I'm not seeing their point being made here.

First, there are reasons these programs exist, and ex-cons do need extra assistance to find jobs and housing. Second, would the OP author rather the ex-con do none of these things, get no assistance, and with no income or housing, be forced to break the law to stay alive? Third, this is quite a few hoops to jump through, and arrangements to be made, and I would frankly admire and respect someone who did so much hard work to learn how to "work the system" - rather a modern-day Andy Dufresne, in a way.

And lastly, anyone who has ever tried to apply for even ONE of these programs, like I have, knows that none is easy, simple, straightforward, guaranteed, etc. You think you're going to get your emergency money in two hours? HA! You'll still be in line in two hours, folks. "Emergency" in the overworked world of social services is very relative.

Again, if this is being forwarded as some kind of moral outrage, I think it's misguided. This is the kind of information that we should be making available to those incarcerated so they can better their lives.
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Old 10 March 2008, 09:30 PM
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A convicted felon is a depressed minority.
No shit. Most felons in the United States are ethnic minorities, and I wouldn't be surprised if many of them are depressed.

Most of this is nonsense. Felons are not considered disabled by the SSA: only those who are under 65, have worked 5 out of the last 10 years, and have a physical or mental condition that prevents them from working and is expected to last at least a year or result in death. Some ex-cons might happen to qualify for this, but not because they're ex-cons. Being "emotionally and mentally unprepared" is not the same as a bona fide mental disorder.

The two general assistance federal programs (TANF and the EITC) are only for people with dependent children, which again may or may not include some prisoners. According to Wikipedia, "as of 2005, only two states New Jersey and Utah still paid cash welfare benefits to childless adults deemed 'able-bodied'."

Some of these programs promise significantly more than they deliver. Minneapolis, for example, has far more people in need of affordable apartments than actually apartments to rent to them, so getting on the affordable housing list is functionally useless. I believe the average family spends over a year waiting for an affordable apartment to become available. And $180 in food stamps does not buy a whole lot of food - I spend about that much myself and I don't eat all that high on the hog.

And honestly, what is the problem with providing ex-cons vocational rehabilitation? Isn't that a good thing? Quite a bit of crime is financially motivated, so maybe people with a decent job and some hope in their life won't be so apt to commit crimes.
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Old 10 March 2008, 09:37 PM
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Are we supposed to just drop people on the streets and hope they don't die? (That's not a sentiment that would surprise me. "Homeless people are just lazy" is a common attitude.)
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Old 10 March 2008, 09:56 PM
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Are we supposed to just drop people on the streets and hope they die?
Here, fixed your typo.

(Sometimes I really do think this one is more applicable.)
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Old 11 March 2008, 02:46 AM
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The first two laws should be easly to look up.

Chapter 74.29 RCW
While this chapter puts you in the right place. There is no law "RCW 72.02.040"

RCW 72.02.040
Quote:
Secretary acting for department exercises powers and duties.

The secretary of corrections acting for the department of corrections shall exercise all powers and perform all duties prescribed by law with respect to the administration of any adult correctional program by the department of corrections.

[1981 c 136 79; 1970 ex.s. c 18 57; 1959 c 28 72.02.040. Prior: 1957 c 272 16. Formerly RCW 43.28.110.]


Notes:
Effective date -- 1981 c 136: See RCW 72.09.900.

Effective date -- Severability -- 1970 ex.s. c 18: See notes following RCW 43.20A.010.
While this one excist, I do not think it as anything to do with the subject of the letter.

Lived in Washington State all my life and have never heard of a "Public Law". Googled several different ways and get this letter and one other, but no laws.
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Old 24 April 2008, 10:55 AM
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My wife works in a social program in Florida that work to get homeless off the street. Among other things, she helps them apply for SSI. Response time is months, not hours, even with Social Security knowing the people live under a bridge. Getting a check in 2-3 months is cause for celebration, a lot go without even longer.
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Furthermore, SSI and Social Security Disability is not administered under state statute, as they are federal programs.
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Are we supposed to just drop people on the streets and hope they don't die? (That's not a sentiment that would surprise me. "Homeless people are just lazy" is a common attitude.)
Of course not. We should give them $5 and a new suit.
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Old 24 April 2008, 03:04 PM
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Hey, I'm impressed that two people asked a librarian about this.

If all of this information is correct I'd be impressed that anyone managed to get it all in one place and given to those who can really use it.

I wonder how many programs I'd qualify for if I really took a look around.
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Old 24 April 2008, 04:27 PM
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I wonder how many programs I'd qualify for if I really took a look around.
You could get 30,000 dollars to open a hot dog stand!!!

400,000 dollars to paint your car an unpopular colour!!!

3200 dollars for babysitting bald eagle hatchlings!!!!

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Old 24 April 2008, 05:01 PM
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Hey, I'm impressed that two people asked a librarian about this.

If all of this information is correct I'd be impressed that anyone managed to get it all in one place and given to those who can really use it.

I wonder how many programs I'd qualify for if I really took a look around.
Probably more than you'd think - between jobs, I qualified for Michigan's food stamp program for $25 a month (Not much, but something), even though I did have enough savings to make it through an extended unemployment.

Big thing in any of it, though, you won't see money in hours. Try months. I had a new job by the time they called me back (they did pay me the four months I was qualified for). It's taken me the better part of a year to get my parents' Social Security death benefits, and that's not even something that has to be reviewed or approved.

Now if you owe the government money, that's different. They'll expect a check in hours.
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