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Old 24 December 2007, 05:20 PM
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Police USPS conspiracy to lower rural carrier salaries

Comment: Every year the postal service does a "mail count" to determine
the average amount of mail a rural carrier delivers on a route. The
amount of mail during this period determines the salary for that route for
the rest of the year. It is rumored the the USPS management stores, hides
and tells major mailers not to send mail during the count period. The
management also releases news stories telling citizens not to send mail
from there own mailboxes, because the mail may be stolen. The management
does these things to lower the count scores, so that rural carriers get
paid less for doing more work. Is there any way you can check out this
rumor? Every rural carrier I have ever talked to has heard of this, and I
don't know if I should believe it or not.
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Old 28 December 2007, 12:47 PM
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Believe it. Afterall, what good is a conspiracy theory if nobody believes it? But where are they storing those major mailers they are hiding?
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Old 28 December 2007, 12:55 PM
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As I understand it, rural carriers are contractors, not USPS employees. Furthermore, I was once told by a postmaster, when lodging a complaint that my mail had not been picked up, that letter carriers are not obligated to pick up mail from home boxes, only deliver mail to them; that the pick up is a courtesy.

As for telling "major mailers" to not send during those mail censuses, I smell BS. Big time major BS, no less.
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Old 28 December 2007, 01:04 PM
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Nope, rural carriers are USPS employees. They have a different union and a different pay scale than city carriers do, but they're employees.

As for asking major mailers not to ship, well, their stuff has to get out somehow, and if USPS isn't delivering it, who is? USPS would not risk losing income to UPS or FedEx just to lower the pay scale of their rural carriers.

USPS has been cutting back hours for a while now. It's not some kind of conspiracy, just less mail. With online banking, bill pay, ecards and the like, less and less actual "snail" mail goes out. With less mail going out, there is less to deliver, so fewer hours for rural carriers.
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Old 28 December 2007, 02:09 PM
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My dad was a rural mail carrier (recently retired), and heard these rumors, but never believed them. Dad said that the USPS would change the dates of when they did the counts in order to get "a more realistic count", which always seemed to be a lower number, and the rural carriers union objected, but never did anything about it.
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