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Old 25 January 2007, 10:52 PM
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Yow! Only white women can go topless in Texas

Comment: I was recently passed this URL:
http://www.lilithgallery.com/feminis...ssness002.html

The writer claims that it is illegal for non-white women in Texas to go
topless, but okay for white women.

This sounds like a load of rubbish to me since I can't find a single news
source reporting any such law, which surely would have been picked up by
the ACLU, at least. But alas, being a foreigner my lack of knowledge of
american laws is leaving me a bit adrift on what to search for.
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Old 25 January 2007, 11:19 PM
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It's possible that it some left over law from more racists days that was never officially taken off the books, yet would automatically be invalidated by the Civil Rights Act.
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Old 25 January 2007, 11:32 PM
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There are no state laws at all in Texas that forbid public nudity of any kind, except for the right of local governments to regulate sexually oriented business and to have harsher rules on serving alcohol in "nude studios." Oh, and that masseuses cannot be nude or partially nude.

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Old 26 January 2007, 02:49 PM
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It's possible that it some left over law from more racists days that was never officially taken off the books, yet would automatically be invalidated by the Civil Rights Act.
The article in the OP puts it down to a 1999 law enacted by Bush; as such that explanation doesn't hold.

Tho it is possible you're right, and the person in the OP conflated "bad stuff in Texas" with "George Bush" - wouldn't be the first time.
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Old 26 January 2007, 03:47 PM
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Here is a site that talks about this in Austin specifically, and quotes state law (of Texas) Nudity and the Law. There is no mention of race anywhere that I can find.
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Old 27 January 2007, 08:06 AM
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Oh, and that masseuses cannot be nude or partially nude.
Are they not partially nude if their hands are exposed? Pretty difficult to give a massage with gloves...
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Old 27 January 2007, 03:43 PM
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The web site also claims that only white women can breastfeed. Here is A SUMMARY OF ENACTED BREASTFEEDING LEGISLATION--TEXAS It's pretty clear: "A mother is entitled to breast-feed her baby in any location in which the mother is authorized to be."
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I know that this is sort of beating a dead horse, as it were, but I emailed the lilithgallery.com website with some corrections to the above page, and gave proper cites in regard to their claims, hopefully someone will actually read my email and give it some thought.
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I remember reading in Ringo Starr's Postcards from the Boys that you used to be allowed to have topless women on postcards of any race other than white. Just a little turnaround for you. No idea if it's true.
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Old 06 May 2007, 05:53 AM
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Default wow, I am impressed!

quite some time ago, I emailed the lilithgallery.com website with corrections to the listed information, and guess what? They corrected the page with the information that I sent them.
http://www.lilithgallery.com/feminis...ssness002.html
I am so proud of myself right now
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Old 07 May 2007, 05:52 AM
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Are they not partially nude if their hands are exposed? Pretty difficult to give a massage with gloves...
I'm not sure about Texas law, but many laws forbidding nudity are concerned only with female nipples and genitals of either sex. Thus you have non-nude strip clubs where the dancers can strip down to pasties and G-strings.
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Old 07 May 2007, 04:21 PM
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It's possible that it some left over law from more racists days that was never officially taken off the books, yet would automatically be invalidated by the Civil Rights Act.
I don't think such a law would even get that far. It would be invalidated by the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause for not passing a strict scrutiny test as applied to facially discriminatory laws based on race.

Oddly enough, the Civil Rights Act doesn't generally apply as a 14th amendment law. Enforcement comes from the commerce clause.
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