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comment: Some of my friends were talking
about boarding passes the other day, and someone pointed out that if your boarding pass has four "S"'s in it, you are going to be given a more thorough search at security. We didn't believe it at first, but it started to make sense. It would probably be generated randomly, so there's less of an issue of profiling or bias, and while traveling with a big group, one person with an "SSSS" on his boarding pass did, in fact, get separated and subjected to a more thorough search. I ended up doing some quick googling, and it appears to be true. But doesn't this slightly defeat the purpose by giving the passenger advanced notice? Couldn't a person carrying questionable items just pass it to a companion without an "SSSS" boarding pass? |
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Secondary Security Screening Selection
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There may be a code to mandate a search, but I seriously doubt that it would remain the same forever. It might change weekly or daily, or by airport, or by some other criteria. To have one permanent "search this one" code for the whole system seems completely assinine, even for the TSA.
ETA: Corrected by Mad Jay's post.
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All I know is that a few times, the ticket counter person put a mark on my boarding pass and when the gate person saw the mark, they mentioned that it means I would have further searches done. It was a hand made mark.
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Chloe? Christie? Have either of you taken second jobs as airline ticket desk attendants?
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I think all of them are guesses, and there is no real documentation regarding what causes a person to be flagged with SSSS (as indicated by the citation required flag on wikipedia). what we do know is that TSA provides air carrier with a selectee list, and the air carrier flags passengers who match names in the selectee list along with some other unknown factors. People whose name match selectee list can expect to be screened each time they fly
From the TSA website Quote:
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Ixnay on the oonlightingmay!
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I've been selected twice. Once I flew down to Raleigh to stay at my sisters and left from my mothers in Greensboro. The airports are about 30 miles apart, but it generated a one way ticket to Washington DC.
The second time my wallet was stolen the day before I left from Atlanta to travel back to DC. I had to board with no ID. So yeah I saw that one coming. I was just glad they let me on the plane. |
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I was a TSA screener from 2002-2003. When we first started and secondary screening for selectees was done at the gates before boarding, the way airlines designated selectees on boarding passes varied, I don't think all of them indicated it on the boarding pass. Since the screening was done at the gate before the flight boarded, the airline would just provide us a list and they would send the passengers over to us.
As the TSA got rid of gate screening and started doing the secondary screening at the main checkpoint, the screeners had to be able to identify who the selectees were themselves so they could perform the secondary screening at the checkpoint, this is when boarding passes started being required to go through security (before you could get through with a ticket or confirmation and get your boarding pass at the gate). I remember when we first started doing secondary screening at the checkpoint the airlines were still designating selectees in different ways and it was a pain to look at all the different boarding passes and not miss the designation as some were not obvious. I started doing baggage shortly after that so I don't remember exactly, but I think they finally standardized the way selectees are designated and all airlines started putting SSSS, but I'm not sure about then and I certainly don't know about now.
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I once had the special screening, and it was explained to me that I got it because I was flying one-way (SLC to Spokane), on an airline where I had no frequent flyer membership (Delta). Probably didn't help that I was Canadian and my ticket was bought by an out-of-the-US travel agent, but those were the two major points.
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In 2004 I was traveling on a one way ticket purchased within 24 hours of the flight. I recall having an S or some number of S's on the ticket that the counter attendant highlighted. (S was definitely the letter, though) I received an extra screening going through security. I think either the ticket being one way, or bought that day, or both generated the extra search.
What apparently didn't matter or prevent the extra search was that the government bought the ticket for me and I was traveling on military orders. So at least it seems consistent with what one would expect. No big deal for me I just wanted to get to were I was going. So there's more anecdotal "evidence" for you. |
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Oh I forgot to add that both times my pass had the SSSS on them and they ticket agent highlighted them and said it meant I'd be screened.
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Wow then my future MIL name must be similar to a watched suspect. The last 5 times they have flown over the course of 3 years, she has gotten secondary screening EVERY time. I wouldn't expect her to have a name reproduced very often since it is a very Asian first name with a very Irish last name.
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If you set off the walk-through metal detector you have to get a handheld inspection and if the x-ray operator sees something suspicious or unidentifiable in your bag your bag will be searched. So, there is no guarantee that a passenger without SSSS on their boarding pass won't also receive secondary screening for some other reason or that the primary screening alone won't find the "questionable item." It's not supposed to be a surprise. There is no real disadvantage to the passenger knowing and the airline agents will sometimes tell the passenger ahead of time, especially when specific circumstances have caused it like when someone doesn't have an ID.
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Uh...wouldn't just "traveling alone" or "traveling in a group" be pretty much...
EVERYONE??? ~ unless you considered traveling with one other person to not be a "group." How many people is a group? three? four?
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It was kind of annoying when DH and I got pulled asides for a "random" search, just as he was putting his police badge through security. And it wouldn't have even been that bad if they would have made the search worth while. DH and I are both certified to search prisoners because of our jobs and I could have had 20 weapons hidden on me that they never would have found. This has been another edition of Security Theater. |
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At least 7 times in the last 12 weeks or so, I have purchased a ticket within 24 hours of the flight. A few of these were one-way tickets and several were multi-city, multi-airline itineraries. I have not been subjected to a secondary search in any of those instances.
I have, however, had my facial cleanser confiscated because it was 3.4 ounces, which is .4 ounces over the allowable limit. |
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When I travelled back to California when my father died in 2005, I had to be screened. I'd bought my ticket 2 days before my flight on a last minute deal site. The agent advised that I was selected based on that. My flight was more than 24 hours out at the time of booking and it was round trip. It had the SSSS and I didn't mind one bit. The screener made the comment that I had a lot of animal hair on me. I told her that my cat was a shed factory (it was May, so yeah, she was shedding horribly). Other than that, it was smooth sailing the rest of the way.
And I didn't have to go through it when I came back home.
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DH, DD, DS, and I all had to go through the secondary screening. Our flight got cancelled due to poor weather, thus putting us on a flight less than 24 hours after we "bought" the tickets. The secondary search required them separating both dh and I from our 3yo and 1 yo so THEY could be screened.
I suppose there are people that would hide explosives in the baby's diaper, but come on! It wasn't like I wanted my flight to be cancelled. It seems there could be a better way of putting small children through security. |
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