snopes.com  

Go Back   snopes.com > Urban Legends > Crime

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09 October 2007, 07:58 PM
snopes's Avatar
snopes snopes is offline
 
Join Date: 18 February 2000
Location: California
Posts: 104,867
Vanishing Women are disappearing around St. Louis

Comment: Hello friends and friends of friends that send forwards -

I never never never mass e-mail, but something happened to me this week
that I would like to make all my female friends aware of.

This is not a forward...this is not second hand passed-around information
that you have to check for validity or truth -
This is an honest, frightening, and troubling experience that put my
safety in danger this week, and I want you to know about it so you can
protect yourself

Yesterday while at work at the hospital, I got a page from security who
informed me that my rear tires were low on air, and that I should leave to
take care of it before they went flat.

I went down to the parking lot and found that both rear tires were losing
air and there were three screws evenly spaced around the tires - I thought
little of it except that maybe I had ran over some screws and carefully
drove my car to the shop.

When they took the tires off, the mechanic told me with concern that he
thought that given the placement of the screws (each on the edge of the
space between treads and right on the border of the sidewall) that there
was no way the screws were placed there by accidental run over. He advised
me to call the police and report the incident informally.

When I called Saint Louis city police I was transferred from the
dispatcher to a detective after describing my problem. I thought that odd
since I was really just reporting an incident. The detective started
asking me very intricate questions - where I lived, worked, all the places
I have been parked in the past 2 weeks, if I have noticed anyone honking
at me or trying to wave me aside while driving, and If I had noticed
anyone following me. - Again I thought this detailed interview was odd
given the nature of what I was reporting -

The detective then informed me (in relative investigative confidence) that
they are currently working on the cases of the disappearances of several
women within 90 miles of Saint Louis. All women are connected by only one
thing - their cars were found abandoned on the side of the road with flat
tires and screws screwed into them.

They conjecture that the "perpetrator" is targeting females between 25 and
30 and while they are parked or otherwise occupied will screw the screws
into the rear tires causing a slow leak. Then they believe that these
women are being followed and either signaled to pull over by "kind"
passers by that their tires are low OR followed until their tires blow
out/go flat and then the perp is showing up valiantly to offer help.

I obviously find this incredibly scary. Please check your tires. I will
see many of you tomorrow at the wedding.

Love, Helen
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09 October 2007, 08:10 PM
guruwan2b's Avatar
guruwan2b guruwan2b is offline
 
Join Date: 16 October 2001
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 8,701
Default

I seriously doublt that a detective would have given out that much unnecessary information to just anyone who called in.
I googled for missing St. Louis woman and there were some, but I didn't see many any where the car was found with screws it the tire. Wouldn't that be one of those things they might try to keep quite?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09 October 2007, 08:21 PM
diddy's Avatar
diddy diddy is offline
 
Join Date: 07 March 2004
Location: Plymouth, MN
Posts: 10,345
Psychic

Quote:
Originally Posted by guruwan2b View Post
I seriously doublt that a detective would have given out that much unnecessary information to just anyone who called in.
I googled for missing St. Louis woman and there were some, but I didn't see many any where the car was found with screws it the tire. Wouldn't that be one of those things they might try to keep quite?
If I were you I would be mighty careful about googling "Missing girls" and "screw" in the same box
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09 October 2007, 08:21 PM
annabohly's Avatar
annabohly annabohly is offline
 
Join Date: 18 February 2006
Location: Missouri
Posts: 3,089
Default

Good thing i'm 38 and not 25-30.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09 October 2007, 08:22 PM
guruwan2b's Avatar
guruwan2b guruwan2b is offline
 
Join Date: 16 October 2001
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 8,701
Default

I retyped my google keywords at just the last minute... Might have raised a few eyes over in IT.....
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09 October 2007, 08:23 PM
Tootsie Plunkette's Avatar
Tootsie Plunkette Tootsie Plunkette is offline
 
Join Date: 26 October 2001
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 8,959
Icon22

Quote:
Originally Posted by snopes View Post
The detective started
asking me very intricate questions - where I lived, worked, all the places
I have been parked in the past 2 weeks, if I have noticed anyone honking
at me or trying to wave me aside while driving, and If I had noticed
anyone following me...
...whether I was wearing panties, had I even seen any gladiator movies, would I like to see his collection of etchings...
Quote:
Again I thought this detailed interview was odd
given the nature of what I was reporting
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09 October 2007, 08:38 PM
Doug4.7
 
Posts: n/a
Icon27

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tootsie Plunkette View Post
...whether I was wearing panties, had I even seen any gladiator movies, would I like to see his collection of etchings...
Didn't that happen at a McDonalds or something?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09 October 2007, 08:41 PM
Aud 1 Aud 1 is offline
 
Join Date: 05 October 2005
Location: Missouri
Posts: 6,442
Default

I told you my superpower was invisibility.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12 October 2007, 12:37 AM
TuFurg TuFurg is offline
 
Join Date: 06 July 2005
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 1,255
Default

" there were three screws evenly spaced around the tires"


So I guess they should look out for a guy with a drill and a tape measure hanging around cars...
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12 October 2007, 12:50 AM
Doug4.7
 
Posts: n/a
Icon202

Quote:
Originally Posted by TuFurg View Post
So I guess they should look out for a guy with a drill and a tape measure hanging around cars...
Or maybe a topography major?
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 12 October 2007, 04:40 AM
Eddylizard's Avatar
Eddylizard Eddylizard is offline
 
Join Date: 15 June 2006
Location: Tonbridge, Kent, UK
Posts: 17,865
Default

Quote:
The detective then informed me (in relative investigative confidence)
So your idea of keeping something relatively confidential is to write it in an e-mail, send it to as many people you can think of, and urge them to do the same.

Please do not become a spy or an intelligence officer, or indeed apply for any job involving classified information. There is no role for you in these professions.

Anyway, I don't know how reliable a news source this is but

Quote:
We forwarded her e-mail or Schron Jackson, spokesperson for the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department.

Jackson's response was short and sweet and exactly what I expected.

"I checked and the SLMPD is neither aware of any such incidents nor involved in any investigation related to this matter."
Oh and sorry Helen, I didn't see you at the wedding.

Last edited by Eddylizard; 12 October 2007 at 04:49 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12 October 2007, 05:05 AM
Simply Madeline's Avatar
Simply Madeline Simply Madeline is offline
 
Join Date: 15 October 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 8,758
Default

Quote:
"I checked and the SLMPD is neither aware of any such incidents nor involved in any investigation related to this matter."
Well of course not. The OP wasn't referring to St. Louis, the city; but rather to Saint Louis, AKA Louis IX. Women are disappearing around him. Which is odd, because he died in like 1200-something.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12 October 2007, 10:58 AM
Lancastrian's Avatar
Lancastrian Lancastrian is offline
 
Join Date: 17 March 2007
Location: Boston, Massachusetts
Posts: 379
Default

I blame Jean Claude.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 12 October 2007, 12:59 PM
Aud 1 Aud 1 is offline
 
Join Date: 05 October 2005
Location: Missouri
Posts: 6,442
Default

One part of the story that really stuck me as weird turns out to be true. Both of my sisters work in the huge medical complex that is the one place you could refer to offhandly as "the hospital" and have people know what you mean in St. Louis. I thought it was weird that security informed the woman that her tire was flat. That seems way too touchy feely for security at a huge medical center. They both said this was true. One has worked there nearly 10 years and was informed by security when she left her lights one. (Everyone has unique ID tags on their cars.) The other one just started and this was mentioned in her orientation.
Neither one of them had heard this story however.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 13 October 2007, 07:13 PM
Horse Chestnut's Avatar
Horse Chestnut Horse Chestnut is offline
 
Join Date: 11 August 2004
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 3,684
Default

Well, there is a missing woman in St. Louis, whose car was found with a flat tire. No mention of why the tire was flat, and no suggestion that there was a rash of these disappearances.

Also, here's a missing woman in Dallas-Fort Worth with a similar M.O.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 13 October 2007, 10:06 PM
faceless
 
Posts: n/a
Default

sounds like scare tactics to me - either that or a sleek underhand advertising campaign by companies that make tyres which never deflate!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:58 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.