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Old 30 June 2007, 07:12 PM
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Dog Algae kill dogs

Comment: Hi - I'm wondering if this is a 'Hoax' that's circulating:


Please be aware!!

Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:46 pm (PST)


It is with a very heavy heart that I write this and I apologize for its
length. Please, PLEASE pass this around.

On Monday, June 25, 2007 I took my healthy 9 month old Border Collie Vita
swimming at approximately 6:30 p.m. Vita and two other BC's spent about an
hour and a half diving off the dock, chasing the Water Kong, and running
around.

The temperature that day was just over 90 degrees, but none of the dogs
looked particularly winded or hot.

Vita emerged from the water and looked as if she was going to vomit. She
threw up lake water three times. I wasn't particularly concerned as she
took in a lot of water from retrieving and swimming so much and had seen
other dogs do that in the past without complications. After the third time
throwing up, she lay down and closed her eyes. Her tongue was hanging out
of her mouth and I began to suspect she may have heat stroke. I
immediately placed ice on her stomach and checked her gums. They were
pink. I took her temperature which was 101.9, still normal. I then called
my Vet who said these conditions did not indicate heat stroke and said I
needed to get emergency medical attention right away.

Vita was not responsive and when I picked her up to put her in the car she
was limp and her eyes were still closed. Her breathing was slow and her
heart was racing. I arrived at the emergency clinic only a half hour from
the time she showed signs of distress. The ER Vet asked me what sorts of
things Vita had been doing all day. I explained that she was crated as I
was gone for the latter part of the afternoon and that upon coming home,
the only other place she went was to the lake.

Vita's eyes were fixed and dilated and the Vet suggested there was already
brain damage. After administering an IV and oxygen, the Vet called me in
and said Vita was not responding and that it appeared that she was
suffering from some kind of toxic poisoning. Her heart rate was 200. He
mentioned that he had recently seen a couple of dogs who died from Blue
Green Algae Toxicity. I told him that the lake had what appeared to be
algae blooms on the surface of the water. Neither of the other two dogs
showed any of the signs that Vita had and that neither dog took in as much
water as Vita apparently did. We decided to put her on a ventilator
overnight and give her a "chance" to pull through.

When I got home I did a Dogpile.com search of "Blue Green Algae Toxicity
in Dogs" and found some very disturbing information. Blooms can occur at
any time, but most often occur in late summer or early fall. They can
occur in marine, estuarine, and fresh waters, but the blooms of greatest
concern are the ones that occur in fresh water, such as drinking water
reservoirs or recreational waters.

Some cyanobacterial blooms can look like foam, scum, or mats on the
surface of fresh water lakes and ponds. The blooms can be blue, bright
green, brown, or red and may look like paint floating on the water. Some
blooms may not affect the appearance of the water. As algae in a
cyanobacterial bloom die, the water may smell bad. Some cyanobacteria
that can form CyanoHABs (Harmful Algal Blooms) produce toxins that are
among the most powerful natural poisons known. These toxins have no known
antidotes.

-Swallowing water that has cyanobacterial toxins in it can cause acute,
severe gastroenteritis (including diarrhea and vomiting).

-Liver toxicity (i.e., increased serum levels of liver enzymes). Symptoms
of liver poisoning may takes hours or days to show up in people or
animals. Symptoms include abdominal pain, diarrhea, and vomiting.

-Kidney toxicity.

-Neurotoxicity. These symptoms can appear within 15 to 20 minutes after
exposure. In dogs, the neurotoxins can cause salivation and other
neurologic symptoms, including weakness, staggering, difficulty breathing,
convulsions, and death. People may have numb lips, tingling fingers and
toes, or they may feel dizzy.

Vita had indeed exhibited salivation and signs of weakness, staggering,
difficulty breathing and vomiting.

At 7:00 a.m. on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 I called the Vet and was told that
they took Vita off the ventilator a couple of times during the night and
that she was not breathing on her own. I told him to discontinue the
procedure and to let her go.

I called the DNR here in Michigan and was told that Blue Green Algae
didn't usually appear this time of year and I told the agent that the
conditions were that of late summer in Michigan, very hot for the last two
days and reminded him that Blue Green Algae can appear at any time. He
told me not to panic or to alarm other people. I told him that had someone
else panicked, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.

Later that morning I found out from a neighbor that her two young boys had
vomiting, diarrhea and stomach cramps last week and her Doctor suggested
she bring in a water sample. I do not know if she did or not. I also
talked to a woman from a neighboring county whose neighbor's dog ingested
a lot of water from a pond and died suddenly a couple weeks ago.

As of this writing, Wednesday, June 27th, I have not heard anything from
Michigan State where I took Vita for a necropsy and toxoligical panel.

For the time being, I would strongly suggest you watch your dogs when
swimming in small lakes and ponds as the potential threat of toxic
poisoning from Blue Green Algae is prevalent. Had I known that algae of
any kind was toxic, you can be sure my dogs wouldn't be swimming anywhere
and that Vita, whose name quite ironically meant "life" in Latin, would be
alive
today.
Missing you more than you can imagine. May you rest in peace, Red Top
Vita, 09/05/06 - 06/26/07.

Bob Tatus
5997 Mabley Hill Road
Fenton, Michigan 48430
248-255-2111

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Old 30 June 2007, 07:29 PM
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True. Blue Green Algae is/can be toxic to dogs.

http://www.vtvets.org/public_health/...en_algae.shtml

"Unlike green algae, blue-green algae can accumulate in dense scums capable of producing toxins that damage the nerves or livers of people and animals. Several dogs have died since 1999 after drinking algae-rich lake water.

Watzin said her laboratory doesn't have the equipment to test for the nerve-damaging toxins produced by the particular species of blue-green algae found in Malletts Bay. Samples have been sent to Syracuse University for analysis. "

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Old 01 July 2007, 03:26 AM
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No! It's not true! I'm being framed, I tell ya!

*reads article*

Oh. Never mind.
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Old 01 July 2007, 03:53 AM
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*points to Algae* I knew that was coming when I saw your name...



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Old 01 July 2007, 03:50 PM
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The original post appears to be true. Here is the story in the local paper.

Lake algae is focus in probe of dog's death

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No one is certain yet what killed her; a special autopsy Tatus paid for at Michigan State University, which includes examining the dog's tissues for toxic substances, could take several more weeks.
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Blue-green algae can certainly kill a dog, cattle or any other animal, including man.
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So, if a human being drank or swam in a lake or pond that had such algae in it and got sick, how would the doctor treat it? I can't seem to find info on that aspect of algae poisoning.

Also, what would the 3.5 Edition D&D stats be for blue-green algae poisoning? I assume the GI effects would be Con damage, but what about liver damage or numbness and dizziness?

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There are no known antidotes for poisoning resulting from blue green algae. More info;



http://www.ag.ndsu.edu/drought/ds-7-97.htm
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Old 02 July 2007, 05:42 AM
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Also, what would the 3.5 Edition D&D stats be for blue-green algae poisoning? I assume the GI effects would be Con damage, but what about liver damage or numbness and dizziness?

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That's just a dumb question. I think it would just be con & strength damage. I would guess like regular poisoning.

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Old 04 July 2007, 08:11 AM
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We get this in our local Country Park. Every year (cant recall when exactly) notices go up saying to keep away from the water. This stuff is horrid...all gloopy and slimy...yuk.
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