Conspiracy of Science - Earth is Growing (A debunking of plate tectonics)

[JoeBentley]

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Words fail me. The irony is the same guy actually posted a fairly interesting and well thought out theory for a small mystery concerning the dinosaur extinction.

[ganzfeld]

Wow, I don't know what to say either. At least we know all the kooks are not young-Earth creationsts. Also, what incredibly beautiful animation for something that is so wrong. This must have cost quite a lot to make.

(His dinosaur extinction theory is just as interesting and, not surprisingly, just as wrong!)

[JoeBentley]

Originally Posted by ganzfeld

(His dinosaur extinction theory is just as interesting and, not surprisingly, just as wrong!)

Oh don't get me wrong I don't agree with his dinosaur theory either, but at that was somewhat plausible and seemed to have some real thought behind it.

That animated map was idiotic. It looked like someone had made a play do square peg then showed how it fits into a round hole. The warping that went on to make things fit was asinine.

[diddy]

Can anybody give me a lowdown on what his odd theories are. I am at work and cannot view videos.

[JoeBentley]

Originally Posted by diddy

Can anybody give me a lowdown on what his odd theories are. I am at work and cannot view videos.

In a nutshell he's claiming that modern plate tectonics in incorrect and that the earth has been in fact increasing in size, doubling in size since the end of the Cretaceous, and the "space" inbetween the continents has been filling in with ocean as the earth expands.

[BrianB]

Originally Posted by JoeBentley

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Words fail me. The irony is the same guy actually posted a fairly interesting and well thought out theory for a small mystery concerning the dinosaur extinction.

Thanks for these links, Joe. I was scratching my head wondering why his name sounded so familiar so I looked to see if he had a website and found it: NealAdams.com. I had no idea that in addition to being an artist he had a side career as a crank "scientist." He also has some rather bizarre theories on physics.

Originally Posted by ganzfeld

Wow, I don't know what to say either. At least we know all the kooks are not young-Earth creationsts.

Until I saw this thread I didn't realize that there was a secular version of it. The first time I heard this theory was, in fact, from a die-hard young-earth creationist. He believed that that prior to the Noah's flood the earth was much smaller. He believed that Earth inflated like a balloon in a matter of days to its present size. The National Center for Science Education website has a rather nice overview.

An article by Robert Morton in the same Creation Research Society Quarterly said that, if Earth had been at its present radius at the time of the Flood, it could not have (without a violation of the second law of thermodynamics) distributed enough sediments to have produced the entire fossil record (1980). This would seem to be a decisive blow against the typical creationist insistence that all sedimentary rocks were produced by the Flood. But Morton comes up with another alternative: the radius of Earth was smaller at the time of the Flood. Since he does not specify how Earth expanded or with what the newly created volume was filled, I presume he is positing a miracle not hinted at anywhere in scripture. Glenn Morton wrote an article with a similar viewpoint (1983).

Brian

[AniMajor]

I think this guy is ignoring that the Earth is a closed system. At least, an almost completely closed system. Also, he's ignoring that volcanoes and earthquakes happen. Where did the extra mass come from? If there's no convection in the mantle, how were the mountains formed? Why do we have earthquakes? If the earth expanded why isn't the ground perfectly flat? Why do we have volcanoes because there wouldn't be any hot spots in the mantle? How does someone sit through 5th grade earth science and not learn these things? I think God making the earth is a more valid theory.

[Fugio Cent]

You can find more discussions on the growing Earth theory over at the 'Against the Mainstream' forum at the Bad Astronomy/Universe Today forum, including more posts from Neal Adams:

http://www.bautforum.com/

Part of me thinks these theories can be kind of fun in a hypothetical way, thinking about what would have to be true first in order for these theories to work. Or perhaps its just the people who invest so much of themselves into them that I find fascinating.

[ganzfeld]

When I first watched the video, I wondered, "If it's growing, then what's happening in the middle?" Then I remembered -- Hell is down there!