Couple wants $50,000 not to abort?

[JoeBentley]

http://www.helpmybabylive.com/

[Buckle Up]

OMG! That is one of the most despicable extortions I have ever seen. I'm doubtful there is even a pregnancy involved since they have set up a third-party host to collect money and keep anyone from contacting them. That's almost my hope, anyway, because I'd rather they be putting people on than risking there is a real child that will have to grow up with these miserable excuses for parents. News flash: It costs nothing to give your child for adoption. Many waiting parents will pay your expenses too. If you don't think you can handle that sacrifice, then I doubt you can handle the sacrifices necessary to raise a child. Good DOYC. Why did I open this thread. Save us from ourselves, DOYC.

[Ryda Wong, EBfCo.]

Heh. Might be an experiment to see how many "pro-lifers" literally put their money where their mouth is.

[Prints Myshkin]

Brilliant! Twisted but brilliant. The best part: "Understand that you are giving the money to us, with no obligation on our part."

I wonder if they'll get any money.

[Aimee Evilpixie]

Originally Posted by Ryda Wong, EBfCo.

Heh. Might be an experiment to see how many "pro-lifers" literally put their money where their mouth is.

That was my first thought.

I guess some people have found a way to capitalize on the pro-life sentiments of those who hold them. If it gets spread around enough they might end up with more than 50 grand, who knows? Emotional extortion works

Wonder who's really behind it? Please do not attempt to contact us...The hosts don't know how to contact us. We'll just get the money. Heh.

ETA: when I started this there were no other replies

[Artemis]

Sick.

So...can I donate money in favor of them aborting?

[Ryda Wong, EBfCo.]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Sick.

I'm not sure why it's sick. Economics often play a part in the choice to abort. They (if they aren't hoaxing) are just being honest and making a last ditch attempt.

And, besides, perhaps they couldn't bear to adopt, in which case the best options are a) try to raise money to carry the fetus to term, or b) to abort.

[Prints Myshkin]

Whether they're hoaxing or not, it's a hell of a can of worms. It throws the whole abortion debate into stark relief. To a pro-lifer, this is essentially a ransom note. But, as far as I can tell, if they're not lying, it is perfectly legal. There's no reason that this couldn't be done openly, if one could handle the media pressure and public scorn.

It's B.S.

Our two real options are either having and raising the child, or aborting. While we'd like to think that adoption is a viable option for us, my girlfriend doesn't believe that she'd be able to give up a child after giving birth to it

I bet they are some "art" students who want to see how many people will fall for their version of a Nigerian scheme.

Oh yea, and there are many agencies that will help with adoption.

A version of the "Buy this magazine or we'll shoot this dog" thing....

[Buckle Up]

Originally Posted by Ryda Wong, EBfCo.

I'm not sure why it's sick. Economics often play a part in the choice to abort. They (if they aren't hoaxing) are just being honest and making a last ditch attempt.

And, besides, perhaps they couldn't bear to adopt, in which case the best options are a) try to raise money to carry the fetus to term, or b) to abort.

I'm pro-choice but I must disagree with you. This is not a brilliant political move - again, assuming this is not a hoax - this is a human life we're talking about, at least a future one. I concede that economics are involved (or should be) in the choice to have a child, but this is nothing sort of extortion in my mind.

Again, if they can't bear to give it for adoption, then how can they make the sacrifices required to raise a child? This is really one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen. To prey on people's emotions like that for 50 grand, especially when there is no way to check the veracity of their claims, is borderline criminal. I really hope this is a hoax.

Aside from being completely appaling in general, I'm just disgusted at their terms and conditions....

• You are _giving_ us money, with no expectation of getting anything in return, ever. We are not obligated to do, or refrain from, anything as a result of your or anyone else's donation.
• You do not, and will never, know who we are. You agree not to try to find out who we are. You agree not to contact InvisiHosting about our site.
• You agree that knowing our identitiy is not a condition of your gift. You agree to not disclose any information about us to any other party.
• This is not a non-profit. You don't get to write this off on your taxes, and we have to pay taxes on any gifts you give us.
• You agree to pay only through PayPal and only to the account of InvisiHosting, LLC, who will then transfer the money to us at the end of three months.
• You agree not to hold InvisiHosting, LLC liable for any actions on our part. You agree that they are not responsible for any dissatisfaction that you may experience as a result of donating to us.
• You agree to forfeit $25,000 per violation of these terms.

$25,000 TOS violation charges?!?!? Per violation? Aren't I the one giving you the gift here? I mean, I completely understand why someone with a scam like this would wanna remain anonymous, but seriously.....

Not to mention right there in the first post, they basically say "Even if we make the $50,000, we still reserve the right to have an abortion. And you'll never know one way or the other about it."

I also love this line...

Our kid won't grow up and rob you.

No, that's what WE'RE here for....

[JoeBentley]

Like others I bet its unlikely that a real pregnancy is on the line here, its probably either a scam or some sort of social experiment.

I wonder how much I could get for my mortal soul?

[Ryda Wong, EBfCo.]

Originally Posted by Buckleupp

I'm pro-choice but I must disagree with you. This is not a brilliant political move - again, assuming this is not a hoax - this is a human life we're talking about, at least a future one. I concede that economics are involved (or should be) in the choice to have a child, but this is nothing sort of extortion in my mind.

I don't see how it's any different than asking for money for college or for other needful things, which many people have done via the net.

Originally Posted by Buckleupp

Again, if they can't bear to give it for adoption, then how can they make the sacrifices required to raise a child?

I don't see how those two things are related. I mean, giving a child up for adoption means giving it to a really uncertain, and possibly nasty future. I can see how someone could not bear to do that, but would gladly sacrifice for the born child.

[Ryda Wong, EBfCo.]

Originally Posted by Doug4.7

Oh yea, and there are many agencies that will help with adoption.

Where are the ones who will help you raise that kid they so desperatly want you to have?

Oh, right! They're voting conservative, a.k.a. the Grand Ole "You and your brood can starve in the street. Just let me keep all my money" Party

Originally Posted by Ryda Wong, EBfCo.

I don't see how it's any different than asking for money for college or for other needful things, which many people have done via the net.

Because this is a potential life that we're talking about. They're playing on pro-lifer's emotions, and like Prints Myshkin said, it's essentially a ransom note. Send us money or the baby dies. It's like a pro-lifer's worst nightmare, and they'll send money through the nose.

Plus, the whole anonyminity thing is hard too. If I donate money to a kid's college fund via the internet (which, honestly, I don't think I'd do, but just saying), I'd probably get updates. "We've made this much money, and Junior just got accepted to State College this week! Thanks for your contributions!" This is just, "Give us money, or the baby dies. And you don't even get to ask if we kill the baby or not, just give us the freakin' money!"

[Prints Myshkin]

Originally Posted by Danamac448

It's like a pro-lifer's worst nightmare, and they'll send money through the nose.

Plus, the whole anonyminity thing is hard too. If I donate money to a kid's college fund via the internet (which, honestly, I don't think I'd do, but just saying), I'd probably get updates. "We've made this much money, and Junior just got accepted to State College this week! Thanks for your contributions!" This is just, "Give us money, or the baby dies. And you don't even get to ask if we kill the baby or not, just give us the freakin' money!"

That's why I don't think they'll actually get any money. If they were open, on Oprah, with some impartial observer verifying that she indeed peed on the strip, then a pro-lifer couldn't rationalize lack of support based upon the possibility that there is no fetus. At that point it really is "put up or shut up".

[Ryda Wong, EBfCo.]

Originally Posted by Danamac448

It's like a pro-lifer's worst nightmare, and they'll send money through the nose.

Good. They deserve to pay. Even if the thing's a hoax.

Originally Posted by Prints Myshkin

That's why I don't think they'll actually get any money. If they were open, on Oprah, with some impartial observer verifying that she indeed peed on the strip, then a pro-lifer couldn't rationalize lack of support based upon the possibility that there is no fetus. At that point it really is "put up or shut up".

Meh, I suppose I should have said that they were expecting the pro-lifers to pay through the nose. I knew what I meant anyway.....

Originally Posted by Ryda Wong, EBfCo.

Good. They deserve to pay. Even if the thing's a hoax.

Why? For falling for a scam, or for being pro-life? Seriously, I don't get your point.