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Old 09 January 2007, 12:46 AM
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Fright Scariest accident ever

Ok this HAD to be the most scary accident ever...







Notice where the guardrail was hit.. He musta flew OVER that pipe opening....
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Old 09 January 2007, 01:12 AM
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Where did all the brush go that was in the lower left of the first picture? And how did the metal cage change shape and moveWAY over to the left in the third picture?

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Old 09 January 2007, 01:13 AM
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Yow!

I have no idea how valid the pictures are, but if they are what they appear to be...

I'd need a change of underwear, that's for sure!


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I think the three pictures are all from different angles and taken from different areas around the edge. If the photographer was standing behind the "cage", taking a picture of the truck, it would look as if the cage were a lot closer. Kind of a perspective thing. You can see the change of angle when you look at the opening to the pipe.
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Old 09 January 2007, 01:19 AM
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Where did all the brush go that was in the lower left of the first picture? And how did the metal cage change shape and moveWAY over to the left in the third picture?

Telephoto compression.
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Old 09 January 2007, 01:22 AM
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The angles look OK to me - the cage was closer to the camera in the earlier shots and it would appear a different shape from a different angle. The brush is right by the cage in the last shot.

One thing that makes the shots look less real is the choice of lens. It looks to be a fairly wide angle with the result that perspective is not what the human eye would have seen

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Old 09 January 2007, 01:28 AM
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I saw this earlier today on Mustang World. I don't even know how I ended up there. A google search seems to give them credit for first posting, but the thread author hasn't said where he got the pictures.
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Old 09 January 2007, 01:45 AM
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Is that the remnants of a hundred other vehicles at the bottom? Makes you wonder why there isn't something more than a tinny little guardrail. I would question whether the vehicle flew over the pipe. Seems very far fetched (especially backwards). More likely they went off road somewhere left of any shots and ran along the srub before stopping just before the edge, and the guard rail break was from some other, recent, crash.
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Old 09 January 2007, 01:59 AM
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I'm no expert on car crashes, but the position of the truck strikes me as odd. If the accident happened as it was described in the OP, I assume the truck would have driven forward through the guardrail and flown over the pipe, but in the picture it's sitting backwards (as if it went through the guardrail rear-end-first). How did it manage to turn 180 degrees without falling into the quarry? The only thing I can figure out is that the truck might have rolled backwards down the hill and crashed through the rail. (Sorry my description doesn't make more sense. I have trouble describing this sort of thing.)

If it is fake, I still felt dizzy and a little sick just looking at it.

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Old 09 January 2007, 02:10 AM
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I'm no expert on car crashes, but the position of the truck strikes me as odd. If the accident happened as it was described in the OP, I assume the truck would have driven forward through the guardrail and flown over the pipe, but in the picture it's sitting backwards (as if it went through the guardrail rear-end-first). How did it manage to turn 180 degrees without falling into the quarry? The only thing I can figure out is that the truck might have rolled backwards down the hill and crashed through the rail. (Sorry my description doesn't make more sense. I have trouble describing this sort of thing.)

If it is fake, I still felt dizzy and a little sick just looking at it.
Firstly: Hoooooooollllllly crow!!

Secondly: Flipped and rolled?
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Old 09 January 2007, 02:25 AM
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I'm no expert on car crashes, but the position of the truck strikes me as odd. If the accident happened as it was described in the OP, I assume the truck would have driven forward through the guardrail and flown over the pipe, but in the picture it's sitting backwards (as if it went through the guardrail rear-end-first). How did it manage to turn 180 degrees without falling into the quarry? The only thing I can figure out is that the truck might have rolled backwards down the hill and crashed through the rail.
A guard rail if its force applies to the whole vehicle will crumble up and stop the vehicle, the very fact taht it went past the guard rail indicates that it applied its force unevenly to the vehicle, so a vehicle that penetrates the guard rail is usually going to flip and/or turn. It'd be more incredible to see a vehicle go straight after pentrating a guardrail.



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Is that the remnants of a hundred other vehicles at the bottom? .
No, it's debris from 2 sources: -carried through the drainage pipe -Funneled by the wind into the cliff
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Old 09 January 2007, 12:01 PM
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I'm no accident reconstructionist, but if you look at the line of the truck from rear, passenger-side of the bed to the front of the passenger-side door, the truck looks like the frame is wrenched.

To me, that might indicate that the truck was moving right to left in the pic, hit the guardrail, did a 180 degree flip and landed there.

Yeah, it looks real - and my shorts need changing... ewwwww
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Old 09 January 2007, 12:16 PM
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Notice where the guardrail was hit.. He musta flew OVER that pipe opening....
There is a damaged support to the guardrail on the left of the pipe. The car may not have jumped, but gone over the ground above the pipe (which could be broader than it looks).

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Old 09 January 2007, 01:23 PM
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I would see it as this. The the car has hit the concrete barrier right of shot, and instead of deflecting the car (high wheelbase), it's toppled it over making a ramp. The car has gone up the ramp and landed atop the steel guardrail and skidded along it, maybe with left wheel on dirt. It hits the wooden support that's now leaning at 45 degrees with it's right headlight. which spins it around and it drops down the slope to the position it finished up.

The giveaway is the profile of the guardrail on the extreme left of photo #2. That's what it's meant to look like. The guardrail up to the broken post has been crushed from above to the level of the top of the wooden supports. It explains the damage to the right front and undercarriage, whilst the rest of the car seems relatively intact.

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Old 09 January 2007, 01:27 PM
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Oh my . . .

The truck appears to be only 2 or 3 feet from the edge of the cliff. I'm not sure if it really is, but I still don't believe I'd like to be one of the men standing on the right side of the vehicle and I'm not afraid of heights!

This reminds me of Tallulah Gorge in North Georgia. I've driven through there many a time and wondered if anyone has ever gone off the road into the gorge.
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Old 09 January 2007, 07:10 PM
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The front of the truck does look like it hit something on the driver's side (like the cement barrier) and the dirt on the roof (similar to the dirt on the hill right behind the truck) does seem to suggest that it rolled into it's final resting place at some point. Looks to me to be real, but the perspective is all wrong. In the first photo, the front tire is nowhere near the edge of the dropoff (atleast a few feet or more from it), yet in the second photo it looks like it's teetering right off the edge. Were it really as close as it looks, I'd also have expected the rescue team to be wearing harnasses or something to that extent (which they obviously aren't). Any possibility that it was being filmed for a movie?
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Old 10 January 2007, 07:57 PM
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Looks like the top of the guardrail is crushed up to the lopsided post. The truck may have ridden the guardrail over the culvert until it finally rolled off.
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Old 10 January 2007, 08:12 PM
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Look at the front tire in the first picture, and compare it to front tire in the second picture in relation to the edge of the precipice. There is a marked difference in how close it is. I believe that the truck did crash the barrier, and did turn 180 degrees and maybe even flipped or rolled, that part of the picture looks correct, but i also believe that everything below the truck and the mouth of the culvert is shopped in.

Or, yeah, what YoShIe said

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Old 10 January 2007, 09:17 PM
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The front tire is fine. In neither picture can you actually tell how close to the edge it is. It's obviously a lot further than it looks in either, as the rescuers would not be standing around so blase so close to the edge.

I don't think the drop is 'shopped in. They've got the same bush below the pipe in shots 2 and 3, from different angles. If they shopped it in, they must have taken source shots of the hole from just the right places to make all the angles and light work.
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Old 10 January 2007, 11:26 PM
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Look at the front tire in the first picture, and compare it to front tire in the second picture in relation to the edge of the precipice. There is a marked difference in how close it is.

Or, yeah, what YoShIe said
Oh come on. do you live in Flatland???? Why do so many people have so much trouble in perceiving perspective?


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Old 10 January 2007, 11:35 PM
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