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Old 21 May 2014, 07:45 PM
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Cheer Hip hip, hooray!

Comment: Just wondering if the commonly used term at birthday parties,
"Hip hip, hooray!" is actually offensive to the Jews today? Some rumour
about it being anti-Semitic as it is claimed the enemies of Jerusalem
would cry "Jerusalem has fallen" - but in Latin is was "Hep hep", (which
stood for Hieroslyma est perdita - IE using the first letter of these 3
words) not "hip hip". And "Hu-raj" which apparently means we are on the way
to paradise.
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Old 21 May 2014, 08:08 PM
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Why would they yell an acronym in Latin and then an exclamation in Arabic?

To answer the first question, no, not AFAIK.
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Old 21 May 2014, 08:28 PM
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Single data point: I never heard of this claim.

Of course, I never heard of "hip, hip, hooray" being specific to birthday parties, either; or even particularly common at birthday parties.

Last edited by thorny locust; 21 May 2014 at 08:28 PM. Reason: data is not the same word as date
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Old 22 May 2014, 02:25 AM
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I heard this story many many years ago when I was in the SCA. I believe the local group changed to a different cheer, rather than offend; as I recall, the cheer just became "Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah!" And it was about that time I stopped attending (nothing to do with the cheer, although I thought the story was highly unlikely) so I don't know if it has stayed that way.
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Old 22 May 2014, 03:08 AM
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This rabbi think so.

This guy thinks the rabbi is wrong.

The Straight Dope has a more nuanced perspective.
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Old 22 May 2014, 02:16 PM
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I like Cecil's answer.

I think he's most probably right. IME, Cowherds use lots of different vocal calls to direct their charges and they tend to use the same ones unconsciously in other ways.

Now y'all get in line. Hep! Hep!
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Old 22 May 2014, 04:11 PM
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Now y'all get in line. Hep! Hep!
I read this and all I can think about is the final chase in the Blues Brothers.
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Old 22 May 2014, 04:42 PM
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Were acronyms (as opposed to initial abbreviations) known in first century Rome? I know we say first century "A.D." but we don't pronounce it "AD."
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