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Old 15 December 2010, 09:13 PM
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Comment: Bonkers! Would you believe it?

French artist Julien Berthier has designed a fully functional boat to look as if
it is sinking. The 6.5m (21ft) yacht was cut in half with a new keel and motor
added so it remains in the sinking position while being fully functional. He
describes it as "the permanent and mobile image of a wrecked ship that has
become a functional and safe leisure object."

Berthier has taken the boat (or should I say half-a-boat) across the English
Channel to London and has toured it around Europe, getting plenty of offers
of assistance from unwitting good Samaritans, who would presumably be
either very annoyed or rather bemused by the contraption.

The designer and artist designed and built the floating installation in 2007.
He named his creation Love Love.















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Old 15 December 2010, 09:29 PM
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I heard the guy who build and sailed that boat on NPR. He said he had something like 15 people try to rescue him on his maiden voyage alone.
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Old 15 December 2010, 09:32 PM
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Blow Your Top Meet the sailor with half a boat who always gets that sinking feeling

This sorry sight is enough to give any captain a sinking feeling but this apparent wreck is actually meant to look as though it's heading for a watery grave.

The boat, dubbed Love Love, is the brainchild of French designer Julien Berthier and it has certainly had unsuspecting passers-by around the world stopping for a second glance.

The bizarre ship, which looks as though it is constantly sinking, sticks out like a sore thumb wherever Julien takes it, and he has even had police and coastguards sailing to the rescue.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Love-Love.html
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Old 15 December 2010, 10:14 PM
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This is unacceptable.

If he comes to America, he can expect to be charged for perpetrating a hoax when the US Coast Guard comes racing out to "rescue" him after the first time. It's awfully neat, but it's kind of like covering yourself with blood and putting a fake hatchet on your head - and lying down near a logging camp. This is too close to what we see WAY too many times every day.

Idot.
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Old 15 December 2010, 10:23 PM
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You should put him on the terrorist watch list. I bet he's not a patriot.
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Old 16 December 2010, 12:56 AM
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This is unacceptable.
I'm inclined to agree. I think that as an artistic piece, a bit of whimsy, a "floating installation," it's pretty darn cool. To enter in a boat show, to have appear at special maritime events, etc. - fantastic. I'm not at all amused by this bit:

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he has even had police and coastguards sailing to the rescue.
It's the equivalent of pulling a fire alarm - causing unecessary panic and quite possibly occupying personnel and resources who would then be unavailable in the event of an actual emergency.

ETA: At the very minimum, he should be alerting local Coast Guards/nautical authorities/etc. before sailing into their waters, or should have some other means of communicating (obviously, and from a distance) that he's fine and in no need of assistance when in open waters.
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Old 16 December 2010, 01:10 AM
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French artist Julien Berthier has designed a fully functional boat to look as if
it is sinking.
I wonder what it is sinking about?
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Old 16 December 2010, 02:43 AM
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This is unacceptable.
Agreed. There's jokes and japes, and there's wasting everybody's time. The original article above indicates this where it says people might be bemused or "very annoyed".

I wonder if even one single person who has attempted to 'save' this particular boat will now not do so the next time they see this kind of sight...? I wouldn't want that on MY conscience.
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Old 16 December 2010, 08:16 AM
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Not only does it create a risk of unnecessary rescue efforts or lack of rescue efforts when they are needed, I would also seriously question it's seaworthyness. It's not a ship I would like to sail on a windy day.
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Old 16 December 2010, 08:20 PM
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I suspect he can't/won't go very far in it, and the local police and coast guard are now familiar with his jape.
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Old 16 December 2010, 08:35 PM
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I suspect he can't/won't go very far in it.
from snope's link

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Julien, who cut the boat in two before sealing it with fibreglass, has used the unusual mode of transport to travel around the globe
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Old 16 December 2010, 09:06 PM
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Do you think that's an ocean going vessel?

It's a work of art. It's gets carried round the world in a freight container.
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Old 16 December 2010, 10:04 PM
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Do you think that's an ocean going vessel?

It's a work of art. It's gets carried round the world in a freight container.
Cite? That wasn't mentioned anywhere in the article. He did mention he sailed across the English Channel in it.
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Old 16 December 2010, 10:49 PM
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Cite? That wasn't mentioned anywhere in the article. He did mention he sailed across the English Channel in it.
I'm sure it can get around in calm waters, but in the article it was being lowered by crane into the water for a visit to Normandy. So it seems likely that it is transported by freight container.
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Old 16 December 2010, 11:29 PM
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I'm sure it can get around in calm waters, but in the article it was being lowered by crane into the water for a visit to Normandy. So it seems likely that it is transported by freight container.
You're probably right. It sure doesn't look like it would safely make a Transatlantic crossing.
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Old 17 December 2010, 12:21 AM
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Overall, this just seems irresponsible to me.
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Old 17 December 2010, 01:51 AM
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I suspect he can't/won't go very far in it, and the local police and coast guard are now familiar with his jape.
Yes, but that won't stop passersby from calling emergency services or otherwise trying to help, which would still waste time and resources.
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Old 17 December 2010, 04:46 PM
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Overall, this just seems irresponsible to me.
I totally agree. the cost of a rescue is very high and the fact is that others could be put in danger in an effort to "rescue" this idiot.

isn't this kind of thing the same as when someone yells FIRE in a movie theater?
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Old 18 December 2010, 03:52 PM
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Yes, but that won't stop passersby from calling emergency services or otherwise trying to help, which would still waste time and resources.
Yes, but as you can tell from the available clips and videos it has to be lowered into the dock by crane and then sailed out of the port, past the harbour master.

I need to alert everyone that we seem to be basing our opinions on a Daily Mail article.

But still, from the article:

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'When I was on Lake Constance in Germany the police, firemen and harbour masters were all warned in advance about the boat but someone who happened to walk past saw it and called for help.

'Unfortunately the person who answered the call was unaware and more than 20 people were sent out to help rescue me.
The fact that rescue teams were called was the fault of lack of communication on their part, not the artist.

We should address the artistic licence used in the Mail article. He uses* the boat "to travel around the world" in the same way that a snowboarder might use his snowboard to travel round the world.

The boat (or sculpture) runs on electric motors. It's not going far, or fast.

I'll leave the last word to this article:

http://www.hifructose.com/the-blog/6...-berthier.html

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Is a work such as Love Love on constant display somewhere in France, in a private collection or do you just take it out on weekends for the obvious looks on passers by?

The piece is sold to a collector. It travels to shows from time to time, being used on different locations and contexts among which a show in London, just in front of the Lehmann Brothers building after they bankrupted when the crisis "started" in 2008.

*or rather used since he's sold it now, for £50,000 according to this site.
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Old 18 December 2010, 08:23 PM
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The fact that rescue teams were called was the fault of lack of communication on their part, not the artist.
How were the rescue teams supposed to know for sure the call was about the artist's ship? Is it not possible that someone else's ship could be foundering at the same he was out on the lake?
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