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Old 19 April 2017, 08:23 PM
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United States Fox News: Bill O'Reilly out after harassment claims

Presenter Bill O'Reilly has been dropped from Fox News over sexual harassment claims, the company says. "After a thorough and careful review of the allegations... Bill O'Reilly will not be returning," the network said in a one-sentence statement.

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And another one bites the dust. And how unsurprised am I that Trump has publicly supported this man.
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Old 19 April 2017, 08:25 PM
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And there was much rejoicing.
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Old 19 April 2017, 08:48 PM
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I assume there aren't really any new allegations and that that statement just sounds better than, "We were fine with O'Reilly sexually harassing women as long as it wasn't general knowledge."

ETA: More and more I think this line from South Park's episode, "Red Hot Catholic Love" is way too accurate:
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Old 19 April 2017, 09:45 PM
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I don't think they give one whit whether it's general knowledge. Their only concern is the likes of General Motors and General Electric.
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Old 19 April 2017, 10:30 PM
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It wasn't until it became general knowledge that the generals stopped advertising.
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Old 19 April 2017, 10:49 PM
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Advertising is only a small portion of the revenue. Fox makes most of their money selling their programming to cable providers.
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Old 19 April 2017, 11:04 PM
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Well, presumably much of the revenue for that also comes from advertising (sold by the cable providers). Does make things more complicated, though.
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Old 20 April 2017, 12:22 AM
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Yet another overly simple mental model of reality - ruined forever because of snopes.
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Old 20 April 2017, 01:01 AM
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The cynic in me is all, "This probably a sacrificial lamb kind of thing. Fox News has come under fire for sexual harassment, so they've got to get rid of someone, so they can say that they are addressing the problem." Maybe that's true but for now, celebrate your victories.
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Old 20 April 2017, 01:43 AM
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The only thing with that notion is that here the claims of harassment are against O’Reilly himself and it isn’t as if he has a history of claims against him. My theory is that Fox News doesn’t really care about the claims against O’Reilly. They care about making money and there were enough calls against advertisers that Murdock realized that there was too much going on and O’Reilly was more of a liability for advertisers. Plus the ability for other networks to associate themselves with Bill. It has little to do with with ethics and more to do with money which is unfortunate.
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Old 20 April 2017, 02:20 AM
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The only thing with that notion is that here the claims of harassment are against O’Reilly himself and it isn’t as if he has a history of claims against him.
Actually, he does. He got hit with a complaint in 2004 but successfully managed to attack her credibility.

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My theory is that Fox News doesn’t really care about the claims against O’Reilly. They care about making money and there were enough calls against advertisers that Murdock realized that there was too much going on and O’Reilly was more of a liability for advertisers. Plus the ability for other networks to associate themselves with Bill. It has little to do with with ethics and more to do with money which is unfortunate.
There was even a question that that wasn't the case? Remember, the president of FN just got booted a few months ago over sexual harassment complaints.

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The settlements that sparked this whole reaction go back to at least 2002 (including the 2004 one - another settlement for a reported 9 mil, not one in which he "successfully managed to attack her credibility" crocoduck_h). So I have no idea what you mean by "it isn’t as if he has a history of claims", diddy. That history is what this whole thing has been about.
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Old 20 April 2017, 02:52 AM
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I guess I'm just remembering it wrong- I remember something about him attacking his accuser and forgot that it was settled out of court.
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Actually, he does. He got hit with a complaint in 2004 but successfully managed to attack her credibility.
I actually made a typographic error in my statement. I was trying to say that he does have a past with harassing women. As you said he got away with this.

I was countering the notion that I gathered that he was just picked randomly to be kicked off. If that wasn’t what was being stated, I apologize.

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The settlements that sparked this whole reaction go back to at least 2002 (including the 2004 one - another settlement for a reported 9 mil, not one in which he "successfully managed to attack her credibility" crocoduck_h). So I have no idea what you mean by "it isn’t as if he has a history of claims", diddy. That history is what this whole thing has been about.
I think I misunderstood what was being said.
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Aha. "Isn't as if he doesn't" I guess you meant.
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I don't think they give one whit whether it's general knowledge. Their only concern is the likes of General Motors and General Electric.
Pretty much.
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Aha. "Isn't as if he doesn't" I guess you meant.
Yes, that is correct. That is what I meant to say. I only blame myself.
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Old 21 April 2017, 02:41 PM
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O'Reilly could get $25 million, a year's salary, as compensation for being fired.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/20/bill-...rs-salary.html
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Which is, almost twice the amount ($13 million) that FOX settled with five of the suits against him.
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Old 25 April 2017, 02:47 PM
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Apparently O'Reilly is doing a podcast. The first broadcast was last night/this past weekend. From what I've heard, you can hear it free for 30 days, then you'll have to pay up if you want to listen up.
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