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Old 18 February 2014, 12:49 PM
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Icon220 Duke porn starlet says hardcore career necessary to defray $58,000 Duke price tag

Students at Duke University have spent the last few weeks all atwitter about a female freshman student who flies out to Los Angeles on occasion during school and leads a double life as a porn starlet.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/18/du...uke-price-tag/
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Old 18 February 2014, 12:55 PM
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I feel ambivalent about posting this on NFBSK Gone Wild, as it perpetrates the very sort of attitude about sexual matters that the student - I think rightfully - decries. Either embrace a more personally-conservative attitude about sex and stop sniggering about others sex activities, or embrace a more personally-liberal approach toward sex, and again, stop sniggering about others' sexual activities. Nonetheless, due to several of the references and links, it seemed better for me to post this here, where people are forewarned of the sort of topics they may encounter.
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Old 18 February 2014, 01:53 PM
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And she can't get any sort of financial aid? (There are perfectly good schools that cost a lot less than Duke; a couple just up the street from it in fact.)
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Old 18 February 2014, 02:00 PM
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She's not doing anything illegal; she's earning her way through college.
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Old 18 February 2014, 02:08 PM
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Her parents donít know about her moonlighting career.
I wonder how they think she's paying for college then. Obviously most parents aren't going to assume "hmm, must be doing porn" but most parents are involved enough in the college decision to know how much it costs and how it's getting paid. If for no other reason than their incomes are used to determine how much financial aid the typical student is entitled to.
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Old 18 February 2014, 02:12 PM
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The hypocrisy of the guy who recognized her from WATCHING PORN is just massive.
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Old 18 February 2014, 02:43 PM
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The hypocrisy of the guy who recognized her from WATCHING PORN is just massive.
That always gets me too.

"Oh no! The lunch Lady in our cafeteria used to be an exotic dancer!"
How do you know this?

"Hey! That girl used to be a Dominatrix in a local dungeon"
And again, how DID you find that out?



I'm incensed that "I used to be a stripper/posed nude for playboy" can ruin your career but "I watch enough of that stuff on the internet to be able to recognize a person" isn't.
Even "I'm an alcoholic and a crackhead" won't get you as much grief as having been in the adult industry.
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Old 18 February 2014, 02:46 PM
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It might be classism in addition to sexism. One article talks about how this is "not so uncommon" for women going to college in Southern California and talks about meeting Midwest students who fly to LA to shoot porn. Then it says, "Duke University, however, is an elite institution. This kind of thing is not supposed to happen there."

IOW, working in porn is okay for women who have to go to lesser schools, but not for Duke students. You might see the same attitude against the worker but not the consumer of the work (without the sexist parts) if it was found out that a Duke student was working pumping septic tanks because he was at the house of a former classmate.
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Old 18 February 2014, 02:56 PM
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Didn't the whole Duke lacrosse case start with them hiring sex workers? I guess it's okay for Duke students be involved in the sex industry as long as you're a consumer, not a provider.
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There was also this story, from a few years ago.

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My eyes have now rolled completely, and possibly permanently, to the back of my skull.
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Can anyone recall an even where a male college athlete was found to be working as a stripper or in porn? If so, what was the result?

I'm curious to see which double standard is stronger, "men-stud, women-whore" or "patronizing sex work good, providing sex work bad". If male athlete(s) are also kicked off the team, then it might be more about providing sex work being the issue than the gender standard (not that the latter wouldn't exist or make things worse).

Of course, the lack of such stories might be because the male athletes aren't punished as severely or at all, thereby making for a nothing story. Or because female students (or homosexually inclined male students) that make such a discovery don't say anything for fear of the backlash they'd receive.
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I'm curious to see which double standard is stronger, "men-stud, women-whore" or "patronizing sex work good, providing sex work bad".
My guess is that these are actually two manifestations of the same double standard.
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Old 18 February 2014, 07:26 PM
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The hypocrisy of the guy who recognized her from WATCHING PORN is just massive.
Not sure what the hypocrisy is supposed to be. It just says he told his frat brothers but not that he disapproved of it.
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I didn't see hypocrisy either, just a man who is not very honourable, which isn't much better. I wonder why he even bothered to make a promise he seems never to have intended to keep.
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Old 18 February 2014, 08:38 PM
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IANAC, but I think the hypocrisy is that none of the people attacking the female student are attacking the male student despite the fact that his "crimes" are greater.

She was involved in a step in the pornography business. Her actions only affected herself.

He was involved in a step in the pornography business. His actions affected another person quite negatively after promising not to do those actions.

Even if someone considers pornography to be a "crime", they both participated in that "crime". He added another "crime". She did not. But yet she seems to be getting all of the negative attention.
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What if the she was recognized because she has a very unique appearance - or a notable visible feature like Cindy Crawford's facial mole? It doesn't necessarily mean that the person recognizing her has seen a lot of (or even any) porn.

I remember years ago a porn actress appeared on ABC's 20/20 as part of an "expose" of the darker side of the industry. She had some very notable tattoos (on a g-rated part of her body) and a very notable gap between her teeth, making her recognizable with just seeing her face, and no matter what color or style of hair she may be sporting. I also imagine that back in the day when the scandal broke (about her underage performance in porn), that there were many pictures of Traci Lords in the press. These pictures were, no doubt, of only her face, but that would have made her recognizable even to someone who had never seen her more famous performances.

I don't disagree that there's a sexist double standard here - just that it is possible to recognize a person (even a porn starlet) without even being a consumer of porn.
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And she can't get any sort of financial aid? (There are perfectly good schools that cost a lot less than Duke; a couple just up the street from it in fact.)
You know what financial aid means for very large schools? Loans. Lots and lots of loans. Why should that be in any way preferable to her paying her tuition with legal, well-paying and in-demand work?

I shall be sure to tell my stripper friends that they should have paid their college tuition and room and board with loans instead of with stripping. I'm sure they'd love the chance to be condescended to, and that debt is infinitely preferable to legal work that involves nudity or sexual situations.

(ETA: Also, that website gave me a pop-up with a picture of Obama that said "Tired of the liberal news? Replace it with ours!" wanting me to share the links on social media. That sure makes me feel confident about the veracity of the website's reporting.)
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And she can't get any sort of financial aid? (There are perfectly good schools that cost a lot less than Duke; a couple just up the street from it in fact.)
She is getting financial aid. Her porn career is supplementing that, and according to the article embedded within the OP article also allows her to buy little goodies:

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Lauren does not disclose how much she is paid per shoot, but during the course of our month-long correspondence she does not hesitate to show off to me her recently-purchased iPad mini and array of designer handbags.
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I don't disagree that there's a sexist double standard here - just that it is possible to recognize a person (even a porn starlet) without even being a consumer of porn.
That could have happened. But it didn't according to Lauren.

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In this case, there are two competing narratives of origin. Lauren said it all started with first-year Thomas Bagley watching porn and noticing that one of the actresses looked oddly familiar, almost exactly like Lauren. At his next fraternity rush event, he divulged this discovery to the older brothers and the news took off from there. It was the climax heard ‘round campus. Bagley said Lauren was walking with him to a pre-game and admitted her secret. She begged him to keep it private and he agreed, but he broke his promise at a rush event that evening.
Given that Bagley is an admitted liar (promise breaker?), I believe his story less, especially since it doesn't provide any reason why she'd confess her secret to him.

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