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Old 19 May 2013, 06:52 PM
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Having an opinion is one thing. Being happy that people are being denied the chance to do something that they enjoy and which causes no harm is quite another.
hmmm. There was a church group that used to gather in the park across the street from me on Sunday mornings. I assumed they enjoyed praying/singing and they weren't actually harming anyone, but I was still happy when their permit was not renewed.
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Old 19 May 2013, 07:02 PM
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They were doing things in public though in plain sight. That is miles away from events taking place in a closed off building where presumably they abide by specific rules and nobody is subject to them unless they actually attend like the people that are affected in the first place.

I also bet that in your case, you didn't work to make sure the permit was rejected.
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Old 19 May 2013, 07:31 PM
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I also bet that in your case, you didn't work to make sure the permit was rejected.
I didn't; but I'd be willing to bet tagurit didn't do anything to get the sex festish festival in Canton MD cancelled, either.
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Old 19 May 2013, 08:04 PM
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So? My basic point still stands, the item you objected to was in the middle of the public and it's hosting is quite different than the even in the OP.
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Old 19 May 2013, 08:37 PM
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BDSM is more societal sex.
No it isn't. It's between two consenting adults, just like any other sex act. The convention is a societal thing, but the whole BDSM scene as a whole, isn't.
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Old 19 May 2013, 09:09 PM
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So?
?? You're the one who brought up taking action vs. expressing happiness at the result; I was merely responding to you.
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Old 19 May 2013, 10:15 PM
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Maybe it's because I am a football fanatic, but I assumed it was Canton, Ohio
I'm not much of a football fan, but that's what I thought, too.

I've been to a number of convention centers and similar venues for anime /geek conventions. I'm curious about a few things regarding the hosting, organization, and execution of festivals like this. Is the venue where it is/would be held one that can host multiple events at once? It's not unusual for convention centers to have several completely different things going on. Sometimes participants in the different events do run into each other, but am I correct in assuming that the organizers of adult-oriented conventions would coordinate the events for times/locations where this wouldn't be a problem?

Are the more explicit events "after-hours," or does everything take place during the daytime? Some anime cons will show porn or host adult-oriented discussions later at night and require ID, so I was wondering whether entire festivals and conventions might function that way.

If nothing illegal is going on at this festival and there is no way for children (or anyone else who wouldn't want to be involved) to accidentally wander in, what is the problem?
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Old 19 May 2013, 10:26 PM
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No it isn't. It's between two consenting adults, just like any other sex act. The convention is a societal thing, but the whole BDSM scene as a whole, isn't.
I should really have edited the "two" out of that sentence.
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Old 19 May 2013, 11:27 PM
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?? You're the one who brought up taking action vs. expressing happiness at the result; I was merely responding to you.
The "taking action" was just a add-on to the core point. You just cannot compare the religious group you talk about with the OP event since the nature of the event is different. It really wasn't an important aspect of my point overall.

Anyhow, how can anyone assume anything about what another forum member did or did not do without them explicitly saying so. I have no idea what tagurit did or did not do. But that is neither here nor there. I don't agree with what tagurit said either for the same that most people who cry "not in my backyard" for things they find icky.

Honestly. Is there something that this convention that makes it impossible to host in this are that cannot be resolved by enforcing rules that keeps things inside and make sure everything is legal? Just saying "it's icky" isn't good enough.
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Old 19 May 2013, 11:32 PM
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I really don't have a dog in this fight. I think Tag is entitled to her own opinion whether or not I agree with it. However, if you don't want someone to address a point you've made perhaps you shouldn't make that particular point?
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Old 19 May 2013, 11:54 PM
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However, if you don't want someone to address a point you've made perhaps you shouldn't make that particular point?
I honestly didn't view it as a "point" that needed addressing so much. I don't care that it was attacked anyhow but I wasn't really arguing involvement as the core point of my post.
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Old 20 May 2013, 09:43 AM
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I've been to a number of convention centers and similar venues for anime /geek conventions. I'm curious about a few things regarding the hosting, organization, and execution of festivals like this. Is the venue where it is/would be held one that can host multiple events at once? It's not unusual for convention centers to have several completely different things going on. Sometimes participants in the different events do run into each other, but am I correct in assuming that the organizers of adult-oriented conventions would coordinate the events for times/locations where this wouldn't be a problem?
Atlanta's yearly fetish convention Frolicon lists this on their rules page.

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Donít play ĎLetís Freak Out the Mundanes.í The relationship with our host hotel is very important to us and to the continued success of the convention. When you are in public areas, please stay covered (if you couldnít go grocery shopping in it, please cover up) and behave yourselves. Save your debauchery for the convention spaces and room parties.
http://www.frolicon.com/?page_id=35
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Old 21 May 2013, 04:57 AM
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Funny you should bring up Atlanta. Anime Weekend Atlanta was one of the events I was thinking about when I wrote that post about multiple conventions/events going on at once. The basic rules (no weapons, no alcohol, be respectful, etc) seem pretty similar to the rules for any convention regardless of subject matter. Some cosplayers could probably use a reminder of the "don't freak out the mundanes" rule, although most of the encounters I've had with non-convention-goers were just polite curiosity about the costumes and events.

Has anyone here been to an adult-oriented convention like this? I'm now wondering how you would explain it to other hotel guests. Is the level of discreetness similar to a cosplayer waiting until reaching the actual event rooms to put on his/her costume? Is "discreetness" a word, or should it be "discretion?"
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Old 21 May 2013, 08:22 AM
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Funny you should bring up Atlanta. Anime Weekend Atlanta was one of the events I was thinking about when I wrote that post about multiple conventions/events going on at once. The basic rules (no weapons, no alcohol, be respectful, etc) seem pretty similar to the rules for any convention regardless of subject matter. Some cosplayers could probably use a reminder of the "don't freak out the mundanes" rule, although most of the encounters I've had with non-convention-goers were just polite curiosity about the costumes and events.

Has anyone here been to an adult-oriented convention like this? I'm now wondering how you would explain it to other hotel guests. Is the level of discreetness similar to a cosplayer waiting until reaching the actual event rooms to put on his/her costume? Is "discreetness" a word, or should it be "discretion?"
I've never been to Anime weekend so I can't comment on that. I have been to Dragon*Con in Atlanta every year for quite a while. Costumed people aren't very discreet about anything that weekend. It's common to see people in full costumes on MARTA (Atlanta's train system) and all over the local restaurants that weekend. One time I went to the Hard Rock Cafe with some friends, all of us in full costume and the place was filled with costumed folks. While waiting to get sat I even got asked by some random person (who had no clue about the con going on that weekend) "can I ask you, why is everybody in costume?"

That said D*Con does still ask people to respect certain standards. Skimpy costumes are common among men and women (the year "300" came out I don't think I've ever seen more shirtless guys and quite a few female superheros wear little more than bikinis) but their website says to keep it PG-13 during the day time since there will be kids & others who might get offended around. Late night the rules get relaxed and it's common to see people walking around in nothing but body paint.
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Old 21 May 2013, 08:17 PM
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Funny you should bring up Atlanta. Anime Weekend Atlanta was one of the events I was thinking about when I wrote that post about multiple conventions/events going on at once. The basic rules (no weapons, no alcohol, be respectful, etc) seem pretty similar to the rules for any convention regardless of subject matter. Some cosplayers could probably use a reminder of the "don't freak out the mundanes" rule, although most of the encounters I've had with non-convention-goers were just polite curiosity about the costumes and events.

Has anyone here been to an adult-oriented convention like this? I'm now wondering how you would explain it to other hotel guests. Is the level of discreetness similar to a cosplayer waiting until reaching the actual event rooms to put on his/her costume? Is "discreetness" a word, or should it be "discretion?"

In Toronto we have the annual "Everything you want to know about sex" show at a downtown convention center, and it is heavily advertised and promoted in print radio and Television. Folks are rather discrete out side but inside it is fun and crazy and healthy.

But then we are Canadian and a bit weird in our ways (so i am told)
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