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Old 08 March 2010, 10:33 PM
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Icon402 Do you know how the apostles died?

1) Matthew: Suffered martyrdom in Ethiopia, killed by a sword wound

2) Mark: Died in Alexandria, Egypt, after being dragged by horses through the streets until he was dead.

3) Luke: Was hanged in Greece as a result of his tremendous preaching to the lost.

4) John: Faced martyrdom when he was boiled in huge basin of boiling oil during a wave of persecution in Rome. However, he was miraculously delivered from death. John was then sentenced to the mines on the prison island of Patmos .

He wrote his prophetic Book of Revelation on Patmos . The apostle John was later freed and returned to serve as Bishop of Edessa in modern Turkey . He died as an old man, the only apostle to die peacefully.

5) Peter: He was crucified upside down on an x-shaped cross. According to church tradition it was because he told his tormentors that he felt unworthy to die in the same way that Jesus Christ had died.

6) James the Just: The leader of the church in Jerusalem, was thrown over a hundred feet down from the southeast pinnacle of the Temple when he refused to deny his faith in Christ. When they discovered that he survived the fall, his enemies beat James to death with a fuller's club.

This was the same pinnacle where Satan had taken Jesus during the Temptation.

7) James the Great: Son of Zebedee, was a fisherman by trade when Jesus called him to a lifetime of ministry. As a strong leader of the church, James was ultimately beheaded at Jerusalem.

The Roman officer who guarded James watched amazed as James defended his faith at his trial. Later, the officer walked beside James to the place of execution. Overcome by conviction, he declared his new faith to the judge and knelt beside James to accept beheading as a Christian

8) Bartholomew: Also known as Nathaniel. Was a missionary to Asia. He witnessed for our Lord in present day Turkey. Bartholomew was martyred for his preaching in Armenia where he was flayed to death by a whip.

9) Andrew: Was crucified on an x-shaped cross in Patras, Greece.

After being whipped severely by seven soldiers they tied his body to the cross with cords to prolong his agony. His followers reported that, when he was led toward the cross, Andrew saluted it in these words: 'I have long desired and expected this happy hour. The cross has been consecrated by the body of Christ hanging on it.' He continued to preach to his tormentors for two days until he expired.

10) Thomas: Was stabbed with a spear in India during one of his missionary trips to establish the church in the sub-continent

11) Jude: Was killed with arrows when he refused to deny his faith in Christ.

12) Matthias: The apostle chosen to replace the traitor Judas Iscariot, was stoned and then beheaded.

13) Paul: Was tortured and then beheaded by the evil Emperor Nero at Rome in A.D. 67. Paul endured a lengthy imprisonment, which allowed him to write his many epistles to the churches he had formed throughout the Roman Empire. These letters, which taught many of the foundational doctrines of Christianity, form a large portion of the New Testament.

Perhaps this is a reminder to us that our sufferings here are indeed minor compared to the intense persecution and cold cruelty faced by the apostles, disciples during their times for the sake of the Faith.

"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: But he that endureth to the end shall be saved." Matthew 10:22
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Old 08 March 2010, 10:38 PM
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Bah. That's nothing - nothing - compared to being wished 'happy holidays' when you shop at the Gap.
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Old 08 March 2010, 11:14 PM
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I didn't know Luke was an apostle. Nor that he preached.
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Old 08 March 2010, 11:49 PM
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Play the song titled "People" (#8) on this page. That's how it happened.
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Old 09 March 2010, 12:30 AM
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What does this all prove. Nothing - except that people have died for their faith. Other than that it's just a history lesson.
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Old 09 March 2010, 12:55 AM
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What does this all prove. Nothing - except that people have died for their faith. Other than that it's just a history lesson.
I think it has some value in giving a lesson in perspective to all those War on Christmas idiots who cry, "Persecution!" whenever someone wishes them a happy holiday.
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Old 09 March 2010, 01:12 AM
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4) John: Faced martyrdom when he was boiled in huge basin of boiling oil
At least he wasn't boiled in a basin of tepid oil, for that would be horrible. Or at least horribly boring.
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Old 09 March 2010, 02:44 PM
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At least he wasn't boiled in a basin of tepid oil, for that would be horrible. Or at least horribly boring.

But it would have done wonders for his skin!
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Old 09 March 2010, 03:23 PM
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I didn't know Luke was an apostle. Nor that he preached.
Nor Paul, for that matter. Matthias was put in when Judas fouled out in the second half. I guess Phillip & Simon opened a pizza shop or something.

Actually, the correct answer to this question is “No, and neither do you.”

And for the answering “Well, Biblical scholars mostly agree—“

I reply “On absolutely nothing at all.”
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Perhaps this is a reminder to us that our sufferings here are indeed minor compared to the intense persecution and cold cruelty faced by the apostles, disciples during their times for the sake of the Faith.

Or maybe the message is that Jesus had bad mojo & maybe if you follow him, you might, oh I dunno, have a pretty good chance (looks like 12 of 13) of ending up stabbed, hanged, dragged by horses, boiled in hot oil, crucified, beheaded, tossed off a cliff then beaten to death, flayed by a whip, shot thru with arrows, &/or tortured until you expire.

Maybe they shoulda steered clear of that dude, sounds to me like he had a curse thrown on him by someone.
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Old 09 March 2010, 03:31 PM
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Hmm...so they are covering up Clinton's involvement in ALL of the deaths?
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Old 09 March 2010, 07:59 PM
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Or maybe the message is that Jesus had bad mojo & maybe if you follow him, you might, oh I dunno, have a pretty good chance (looks like 12 of 13) of ending up stabbed, hanged, dragged by horses, boiled in hot oil, crucified, beheaded, tossed off a cliff then beaten to death, flayed by a whip, shot thru with arrows, &/or tortured until you expire.

Maybe they shoulda steered clear of that dude, sounds to me like he had a curse thrown on him by someone.
Yes, a tremendous lesson-- betray your principles, conviction, and everything you believe in. Better to live on your knees, right?
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Better to live on your knees, right?
The benefit of living on your knees is that it allows the opportunity to get back up again later.

Dying for your principles is great in principle.

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Old 09 March 2010, 08:52 PM
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No mention of Judas then... (well his death)
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Old 09 March 2010, 08:53 PM
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Paul is considered an apostle, just not one of "the twelve". The original disciples debated this, and Peter (and the others) came to the conclusion that Paul had been taught by the holy Spirit after his conversion by Jesus. Paul even had a go-round with Peter later, and showed him the "error of his ways".
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Nor Paul, for that matter. Matthias was put in when Judas fouled out in the second half. I guess Phillip & Simon opened a pizza shop or something.
Best. Biblical Analogy. EVAR.
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What does this all prove. Nothing - except that people have died for their faith. Other than that it's just a history lesson.
For most of these people (though not all of them), they were in a position where, if Jesus hadn't been resurrected, they probably would have known it. Meaning they wouldn't have been dying for their faith, but for what they almost certainly knew was a lie.

But is this list accurate? For some of them, the evidence is quite strong (Paul, James the Just, Peter, Mark), enough that most historians accept it as true, AFAIK. For some, though, the evidence is either conflicting or just plain weak. I'm convinced that the Luke and Matthias ones are false - they probably died natural deaths.

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Old 10 March 2010, 01:55 AM
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The benefit of living on your knees is that it allows the opportunity to get back up again later.
Unless they develop arthritis?
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Unless they develop arthritis?
Then you hit them in the groin with your walking frame.

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Foxe's Book of Martyrs lists many more. Why stop at 12?
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