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Old 25 April 2016, 02:26 AM
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Yow! Female Ted Cruz Lookalike Agrees To Do Porn For $10,000

Last Sunday, Searcy Hayes was an unknown 21-year-old from Natchez, Mississippi. By Monday night, she was a viral sensation after viewers of the Maury Povich show decided she was the female doppelganger of Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz. Hayes went on the show after her fiance, 25-year-old Freddie Green, accused her of cheating on him. All was resolved in typical Maury fashion when she passed a lie detector test and DNA results showed her 3-month-old son was Green’s. Since the appearance, numerous websites have printed side-by-side photos showing Hayes next to Cruz.



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Old 25 April 2016, 03:12 AM
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She doesn't look that much like him.
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Old 25 April 2016, 03:21 AM
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So she went on a show to prove her fidelity and now she's going to do porn for just $10 K? Weird.
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Old 25 April 2016, 03:31 AM
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The article says the porn is going to be made with her fiance.
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Old 25 April 2016, 03:41 AM
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ah. I was going by the title.
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Old 25 April 2016, 11:21 AM
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This whole thing just makes me profoundly sad--I have nothing against porn but she's clearly an ill-educated, dirt-poor woman who thinks 10K (which it sounds like she has to split with her boyfriend) is a large amount of money and her fiance sounds like a complete moron who is enticed more by the potential for what he thinks is 'fame' than the tiny paycheck. It's just a porn site paying them for an amateur video, not some producer putting them under contract. This is about as low-tech as porn tapes get--most people who upload amateur clips never see a cent, so I guess this is better than nothing. However, I don't think they realize that if he is on SSI disability that this windfall will mess up his payments for a few months so they are probably going to end up worse off financially if and when they get this money.
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Old 25 April 2016, 11:59 AM
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HL, from what I have heard, 10K for a 6-7 minute shoot is quite good. According to a regular in the industry I interviewed, $2k for either a morning shoot or an afternoon shoot is fairly standard, with adjustments for various conditions.

Very good point about the SSI - if the bf is the only one on SSI, they had better put everything in her name. And that is really dair enough, since is is HER burst of notoriety that justifies the contract, and probably very little of him (not really meaning to belittle him there, just a lack of choices of words) will be shown.
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Old 25 April 2016, 12:13 PM
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Amazingly, Hayes had never heard of Cruz before the resemblance was pointed out to her and she still knows little about him.

"I don't know his positions and I've never seen him, so I don't know if he's done a good enough job to be reelected," she told The Huffington Post.

When we pointed out that Cruz isn't actually president, just a candidate, she said, "Well, yeah, I don't know anything about him."
Usually I think as many people as possible should vote. However there are some exceptions.

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Green [. . . ] said accepting the porn offer was a no-brainer when they saw the amount they would get.

"We want to buy a truck, pay off our house
Well, you could buy an older used truck, and have money left over out of 10K.

Enough money left over to pay off a house, though?

I suppose the house could be nearly paid off already. But I do wonder, between those two quotes, what kind of education is being handed out in that area.
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Old 25 April 2016, 04:21 PM
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From what I've heard, Maury Povich makes Jerry Springer look classy by comparison, so it's practically a given that anyone that gets selected to be on the show is going to be poorly educated and uninformed.
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... what kind of education is being handed out in that area.
I am very tempted to sue the Dorothy Parker quote here, but it would cause too many who see it to have palpitations. The thing is, you can guide people to education but if they won't imbibe, they won't become well-informed. Look at all the anti-vaxxers, anti-frackers, anti-GMOers, Antinuclear-power-ers, etc. out there.
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From what I've heard, Maury Povich makes Jerry Springer look classy by comparison, so it's practically a given that anyone that gets selected to be on the show is going to be poorly educated and uninformed.
I have seen a few episodes of each, and I had thought most were just put-ons, rather than as stupid as they appear. But I am sure there must be plenty of eligible contestants without having to script it.
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The thing is, you can guide people to education but if they won't imbibe, they won't become well-informed.
I had thought most were just put-ons, rather than as stupid as they appear.
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The thing is, you can guide people to education but if they won't imbibe, they won't become well-informed.
True, as far as it goes. But I have no idea whether the particular people in the article were actually offered a proper education. Do you have specific reason to think that they were?

Or, if the first few times the proverbial horse was lead to that trough the water in it tasted awful and made the horse sick, refusing to drink from it in the future could be quite a sensible reaction.

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I had thought most were just put-ons, rather than as stupid as they appear.
It occurs to me, rather belatedly, that while they might actually be that ignorant, they also might have been putting on Huffington.
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True, as far as it goes. But I have no idea whether the particular people in the article were actually offered a proper education. Do you have specific reason to think that they were?

Or, if the first few times the proverbial horse was lead to that trough the water in it tasted awful and made the horse sick, refusing to drink from it in the future could be quite a sensible reaction.
I have no specifics of their situation. My observations generally are that even at the worst-performance schools, the teachers are mostly capable and eager to teach (though often somewhat green, as many experienced teachers transfer out or burn out), but that other factors prevent much learning occurring - the attitude kids bring, the attitude parents display, and the attitude about education that the other kids' bring. There is education to be had, but it can take something of a thick hide - but even the thickness of hide needed I think is often overstated. I went to public school in Alabama, and not at one of the better schools of our district, but there was plenty of material presented and support given to those who wished to access them. And you could also skate by if that is what you wanted to do.
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HL, from what I have heard, 10K for a 6-7 minute shoot is quite good. According to a regular in the industry I interviewed, $2k for either a morning shoot or an afternoon shoot is fairly standard, with adjustments for various conditions.
The economics of it are a lot different based on whether it's a one-off or you're trying to get into it as a career. Although for most people the career is a lot shorter than they might have anticipated, so there may be less of a distinction there than some people expect. A lot of the cost is the social cost of having this out there, which is not going to change much between the first one and any number of subsequent ones. It's also different if you're a viral "celebrity" with your personal identity publicly attached to it, vs a relative unknown trying to create a new identity who will be basically anonymous to the vast majority of random viewers. It's also different if you're someone who chose that and maybe enjoy it, vs someone who would rather not but is lured into it by a moderate pay day.

It's not really a positive situation, but she is a 21 year old, and it's patronizing to assume she can't understand what she's signing up for.
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Old 25 April 2016, 10:26 PM
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Well, you could buy an older used truck, and have money left over out of 10K.

Enough money left over to pay off a house, though?

I suppose the house could be nearly paid off already. But I do wonder, between those two quotes, what kind of education is being handed out in that area.
Maybe the "house" is actually a mobile home? Not stereotyping, just trying to think of a type of home that might be closer to that price range. I haven't really priced mobile homes, but I just did a quick search and it looks like it's possible to get a very basic singlewide for $20-30K new (probably not including transporting it to the site and setting it up, but still). So I could see a used one selling for $10-20K in a place where home values are already very low. And it's probably at least partly paid off. Ok, it's still a stretch to pay that off and buy a truck, but maybe at least somewhat plausible.
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ATNM, your reason for not using the Dorothy Parker quote about the OP is really that people here might have "palpitations"? Do you have any particular reason, just for your own conscience, to think it would be OK to call this woman a whore?

And no, I'm not having "palpitations" about it.
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It occurs to me, rather belatedly, that while they might actually be that ignorant, they also might have been putting on Huffington.
I used to tell DH that Paris Hilton's airhead act in The Simple Life was all for show--he didn't believe me.
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I used to tell DH that Paris Hilton's airhead act in The Simple Life was all for show--he didn't believe me.
I recall having a similar conversation with a fan of Jessica Simpson. In both cases there is some acting going on, and they are almost certainly smarter than their public persona. However, the question is how much smarter. Possibly not all that much. There are a lot of celebrities who find playing dumb to be a good niche. The normal conclusion is that if someone is faking being very dim, they must actually be very bright, but they could just as easily be average, or in some cases even a little below average, just not as below average at the image they play up.

Paris has a high school education. An expensive high school, but still. And unlike many other celebrities it's not because her career took off at a young age. She had the resources to do anything with her life, and this is the life she chose. I'm sure she's cleverer than her persona by a fair margin, but probably not a much deeper conversationalist than you'd imagine.
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I am of the opposite opinion. In my experience, people who seem dim in public almost always turn out to be of rather normal intelligence (sometimes smarter) and people who are thought by intellectuals and scientists to be extremely intelligent usually turn out to have their rather ordinary side. Paris has been around and has experiences almost no one else has. Not everyone born into that kind of money is able to do the things she's done with it. As for whether she's a deep conversationalist, it just depends what kinds of things one wants to talk about. In interviews she seems to have a pretty good grasp of certain subjects and they tend to be the ones where she's been successful. I think a conversation with her would probably be a lot more interesting than one with Trump - even if it were over the phone.
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I always err on the side of looking dumber than I actually am. I have no time for people who try to act smart so I error on the opposite side. I also like to let those same people think its easy to outsmart me until I need to prove otherwise.
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Old 28 April 2016, 12:37 PM
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In my experience, people who seem dim in public almost always turn out to be of rather normal intelligence (sometimes smarter)
People who are massively ignorant in some areas often also turn out to know a great deal about other subjects.

(Which is just as well; as we're all massively ignorant in some areas.)
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