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Old 23 April 2014, 06:59 PM
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I've never had a telemarketer call back (probably because my land line goes directly to the machine), but I did once have a car dealer call and try to find out why I didn't buy a car from him. When I just said I chose another dealership, he had his boss call me.

I hung up on them.

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Old 23 April 2014, 08:06 PM
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Weird, Seaboe. What did they think would happen? It's not like you can take a car back, even if you'd somehow magically been persuaded that theirs was the dealership you wanted to go with after all??!


I hate it when someone approaches me n the street or by phone and gets huffy about the whole 'you don't have ONE minute?!' thing. I have plenty of minutes. If I'd wantedto spend those minutes on whatever topic they're touting, I'd have done that already. Crimminies, I know how to google....
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Old 24 April 2014, 02:11 AM
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I find that harder to do in person but that's definitely how I handle the occasional telemarketer that manages to get through to me. A very polite "no thank, I'm not interested" and then a quick hang up. I guess that's verging on rude but it's a lot better than the things I hear that some people do.
Someone called at 8:40 pm and was surprised that I didn't want to do their NFBSKing survey. "It'll just take a minute..."

But what really got me was on Thursday. I was waiting for a call from the doctor and my phone rang just as I was starting to read them a book. They all let out an "oh" of disappointment.
It was RBC trying to sell me something. I told the lady "you could not possibly have called at a worse time and had me answer the phone."
She did get off the phone quickly.
They haven't called me back.
(My phone is rarely on at school and I almost never get calls on it).
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Old 24 April 2014, 04:00 AM
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The major advantage of having a pronounced regional British accent is that most Francophone telemarketers or doorstep sellars rarely wait for anything after " desolee, je ne parle pas Francais" before hanging up or moving on.

Anglophones tend to need a tad more incomprehensible accent by way of encouragement.
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Old 24 April 2014, 03:05 PM
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Weird, Seaboe. What did they think would happen? It's not like you can take a car back, even if you'd somehow magically been persuaded that theirs was the dealership you wanted to go with after all??!
I have no clue what they expected. Especially since one of the reasons I did not buy from them is that the salesman was incredibly pushy (he wanted me to commit to buying the vehicle before I'd done any comparison shopping). Truth to tell, I probably paid a little more than I would've had I given into his pressure, but I found his sales tactics so offensive I would not have bought a car from him anyway.

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Old 24 April 2014, 03:17 PM
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Weird, Seaboe. What did they think would happen?
They may have been looking for information so they wouldn't lose the next sale.
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Old 24 April 2014, 03:25 PM
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Yeah, they might have been trying to get some quality control feedback on their sales pitches to find out why their sales weren't going through. Sounds like "You guys are rude" would have fallen on deaf ears anyway.
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Old 24 April 2014, 04:42 PM
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Yeah, they might have been trying to get some quality control feedback on their sales pitches to find out why their sales weren't going through. Sounds like "You guys are rude" would have fallen on deaf ears anyway.
I've gone to another dealership for the same reason as Seaboe. And even if I had given my reason as "Your saleperson is nsfbsk'ing rude and pushy" I doubt it would have changed their sales tactics.
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Old 24 April 2014, 05:16 PM
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I have no clue what they expected. Especially since one of the reasons I did not buy from them is that the salesman was incredibly pushy (he wanted me to commit to buying the vehicle before I'd done any comparison shopping).
That was my experience at nearly every dealership I went to when I bought my current car. (It was my first time buying from a dealer, so I had no idea what to expect.) I wound up making a list of places that I will never set foot in again, from the sleazebag who wouldn't even let me look at anything on the lot unless I gave him all my personal information including my address, workplace, and income (I refused to give him this info, which made him mad, so I said some rude things to him and walked out) to the guy who tried to sell me a white car because "White's a good color for a girl." (I am 100% serious.) There was more than one dealer who could not seem to comprehend the idea of comparison shopping. I took one car for a test drive and, when I asked to get the total price with in writing, was presented with the paperwork to purchase the car. The salesman either didn't understand or refused to acknowledge that I was not going to buy a car that day, and after a few minutes of arguing with him, I made it clear that I was never going to purchase anything from him or his dealership, ever. And that was not an uncommon experience I had. Also, sexism was rampant, with many salesmen thinking that they knew best what I wanted, and often presuming I was married with children and trying to sell me on child safety factors or outright telling me a particular car was "popular among women".

The entire experience put me off car-buying completely.

There were a few places that did treat me decently, but if I made the mistake of leaving my contact information, I was subjected to multiple calls trying to get me to come back and buy something. Regardless of how nice they originally were, I had to tell them to stop calling and I grew less and less likely to do any business with them.

I wound up only finding two dealerships in a tri-county area that didn't give me a hard sell and didn't treat me in a "little lady" manner and acknowledged that car buying is not an impulse purchase. The next time I buy a car I'm either going to stick with private sales or those two dealerships.
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Old 24 April 2014, 05:36 PM
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Wow. I feel extremely lucky with my car buying experience. I compared a few cars, went back to Honda, said "I want that one and I will give you this much $$$ for it" and they said "Ok" and I drove a car home that night.

The 4 other dealerships I had test driven cars at all called to get an update and when I told them I bought from a different dealer, they all congratulated me and wished me happiness with my new car.

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Sitting in the right lane at a stop light does not mean I have to turn right if it is not a turn only lane. I was not turning right. Leaning on your horn behind me at a red light does not obligate me to turn. Shut up.
And even if the person in front of you waiting for the light to change so he can go straight ahead is on a bicycle, he is not obligated to move out of the way so you can make a right turn on red. And you definitely shouldn't use the left turn to pull around him so you can make your right turn. You wouldn't do that if a car was in front of you waiting to go straight. I doubt you would do it if there was a motorcycle in front of you waiting to go straight (so it's got nothing to do with the fact that I don't physically take up the whole lane). Why should a bicycle be any different?
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Old 24 April 2014, 06:14 PM
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dfresh witnessed a driver that would go to the lane to the left to make a right turn around a car in the right turn lane. Spoiler: It didn't turn out well for the driver.
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Old 24 April 2014, 06:17 PM
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When we got our Soul, we sent emails to the local Kia dealerships and asked for their best offer. One responded with an actual offer, the others all said, "come in and we'll see what we can do." We checked the offer and it was in the ballpark (actually, slightly lower than we were expecting). So we called them back, said we were coming in, and drove the car home a few hours later.

I've heard from more than one source that dealing with a dedicated internet sales person is the way to go, and a lot of dealerships have them these days.
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Old 24 April 2014, 06:21 PM
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Wow. I feel extremely lucky with my car buying experience. I compared a few cars, went back to Honda, said "I want that one and I will give you this much $$$ for it" and they said "Ok" and I drove a car home that night.

The 4 other dealerships I had test driven cars at all called to get an update and when I told them I bought from a different dealer, they all congratulated me and wished me happiness with my new car.

You were lucky.

The dealership I stopped dealing with, we left because he basically gave my wife the "little lady" treatment Cervus just mentionned.

My wife asked if the price was the best they could offer and the salesbro told her, in his best "Don't worry your litle head" tone, that they had one low, no-haggle price because bargaining was too hard for most people.
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Old 24 April 2014, 10:04 PM
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I haven't bought a car in a very long time. The last time I purchased a car (aside from the Jag which my mom sold me) I brought my then teenage youngest daughter along for the entire process. I wanted to her to have first hand experience every step of the way so that when her time came she would at least be comfortable with the process. I pointed out some of the sales person 'tricks' like pushing extend warranties, offering financing as an incentive and the trip back to the manager to get approval on my offer.

When the salesman said he had to go back to get my offer approve by the manager I asked him if there was even a manager in the back room or if he was planning to close the door and stand around long enough to make it seem like he was talking to a manager.
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Old 25 April 2014, 01:44 PM
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I haven't bought a car in a very long time.
So was she a pushy sales person.
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Old 26 April 2014, 03:24 AM
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You were lucky.

The dealership I stopped dealing with, we left because he basically gave my wife the "little lady" treatment Cervus just mentionned.
We had that kind of treatment to. The car was to be for me to commute 50 miles each way to work. I had been round the dealerships close to where I worked and we had narrowed it down on paper to 2 cars, a Peugeot 306 and another car.

We went to the Peugeot guy talked totally to DH, even when I mentioned things like MPG and such, it was a smile between guys "look at the little lady trying to talk cars".
Eventually DH said he'd rather the sales guy talk to me since the car WAS for me to drive and that got him " tell you what, sir, she can choose the colour" smirk.

When we went for the test drive, I very nearly look the chap up oin his offer to drive like I would on a normal day, since I seriously doubt he'd have been happy at powering down the M4 for 50 miles with me shouting obscentities at other drivers..

We bought from somewhere else, namely a dealership which realised that I was the one who needed to be sold to and not treated as an idiot.
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Old 28 April 2014, 03:08 PM
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It amazes me that, with all the bad publicity attached to selling to the man when the woman is the driver, it still happens so much. I don't like to car shop alone, so my BIL often goes with me (often is not meant to imply I go through vehicles like popcorn; I last bought a vehicle in 2002). I've never even gotten to the seriously looking stage at a dealership that talked to him instead of me.

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Old 28 April 2014, 03:42 PM
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It was RBC trying to sell me something.
RBC has been terrible lately. I don't use them for much anymore now that my student loans are paid off and I do my banking with TD, but some days I'm tempted to close my remaining account and credit card simply because of the calling. It was good for a while, but as soon as I got a new phone the calls started up again, multiple times per day and at odd hours. I never answer my phone for any number I'm not expecting, and it's not like they leave a message, so my incoming calls list is nothing but a string of RBC numbers.
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Old 30 April 2014, 02:43 PM
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Don't have your girlfriend send you things to my house. I will not come out and tell your wife that she is sending stuff to my house (mostly because your wife is the type to shoot the messenger), but I will not hide it.

On a related note, but to a different person. Your kids are not stupid. You should, like me, let them know what an idiot their uncle is. Lying about it only makes you look like an idiot, too. They know you didn't order cases of syrup that only your brother eats.
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