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Old 23 May 2017, 03:21 PM
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Icon13 Shanghai flight delayed by man in "Make America Great Again" cap

A disruptive passenger on a United Airlines flight from Shanghai to New Jersey was asked to get off the plane in a politically tinged altercation, resulting in an unscheduled stop in San Francisco and an arrival delayed by eight hours.

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Old 23 May 2017, 08:36 PM
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I wonder if Chinese police would have been as "efficient" as their US counterpart?

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Old 23 May 2017, 09:42 PM
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He berated a female passenger by calling her "Hillary" and a "lesbian," Gredona wrote.
As if those were insults.
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Old 23 May 2017, 10:33 PM
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On a side bar note, I was wondering why they diverted to San Francisco, but in looking at a great circle path calculator, San Francisco is about a thousand nautical miles closer than Newark.

I'd have thought there was less difference but guess not.
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Old 23 May 2017, 10:42 PM
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The fact that SFO is a major hub for United surely factored into the decision to divert there as opposed to some other airport as well. It would be easier for them to service the plane, pick up a new crew, etc. there.
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Old 24 May 2017, 05:27 PM
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Can the other people on the flight who were delayed sue the "man in the cap?"
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Old 24 May 2017, 06:58 PM
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No question the guy is a total ass, but here is where I am confused:

1. Was the stop in SF made to throw him off the plane? The article says two things:
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A disruptive passenger on a United Airlines flight from Shanghai to New Jersey was asked to get off the plane in a politically tinged altercation, resulting in an unscheduled stop in San Francisco and an arrival delayed by eight hours.
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The flight departed Shanghai five hours after its scheduled takeoff and made an unscheduled stop in San Francisco to change crew.
I read that to mean that it took off so late, that the crew would exceed allowed work time if they went all the way to NJ, but they went ahead because they could get a replacement in SF.

Is that how it works?

Anyway, if that was the reason for the stop, was the initial delay caused by the guy in the cap? That would not make any sense, because they should have just thrown him off in Shanghai (left him Shanghaied as it were) if he was causing trouble.
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Old 24 May 2017, 07:14 PM
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I read it as they made the unscheduled stop at SFO to let the guy off, and because of the unscheduled stop the crew exceeded their allowed work time, but it's not entirely clear.
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Old 24 May 2017, 08:52 PM
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No, the man got off at Shanghai. (For some reason none of the stories made that clear. But that's what happened.)
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Old 24 May 2017, 09:01 PM
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This article says:

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A United Airlines flight was delayed for several hours at Shanghai Pudong International Airport on Sunday after a man in a Make America Great Again cap caused a ruckus on board [ . . . ]

Local law enforcement were then called and the passenger “eventually left the aircraft of his own accord”.[ . . . ]

The flight left Shanghai three hours after its scheduled departure time and had to stop in San Francisco to re-crew before arriving at Newark at 2.22am on Monday, eight hours after the scheduled arrival time, according to media reports.

It is unclear what happened to the man after he left the plane. The Shanghai Airport Authority has not responded to a request for comment.
so apparently he did get back off the plane before it left Shanghai in the first place, and they then had to stop again in San Francisco to recrew, possibly because the original crew would have exceeded their permissible work hours before the plane would have gotten to Newark.

ETA yet again: partially spanked by ganzfeld.

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Old 24 May 2017, 09:03 PM
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Ah, so the guy was kicked off in Shanghai, which caused a delay, which necessitated the stop in San Francisco to avoid having the crew exceed their maximum duty time.
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Old 24 May 2017, 09:06 PM
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Well, the local authorities and the crew talked him off the plane. In other words, to answer overyonder's question, wait... what does 'efficient' mean in this context? Three hours... Anyway, they showed considerable constraint. (Hard to believe that this went on for three hours. It seems that large chunks of this story are missing.)
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Old 25 May 2017, 08:26 PM
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Thanks. To test how bad my reading comprehension is, I reread the OP with teh knowledge you provided and I still did not see it, but then read again and and it does say that "local" authorities escorted him off, so I guess I should have realized that meant China. The byline is Beijing, which of course is not Shanghai but I guess is closer than San Francisco.

Ironically, the less disruptive passenger dragged off in Chicago, in under 3 (or is it 5?) hours is Chinese-born American.
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Old 25 May 2017, 10:15 PM
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Thanks. To test how bad my reading comprehension is, I reread the OP with teh knowledge you provided and I still did not see it
The original article didn't make it all that clear; that's why I cited a different one. I may not have made it clear enough that I was doing so.
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You were clear tl. Thanks!
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