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Old 21 April 2017, 02:16 PM
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Most of the meme's suggest (or outright claim) that the people aren't really poor (I'm guessing the meme creators have a Dickensian view of what poor is) so Christian charity wouldn't apply in their mind. Sometimes I hear the claim that they support charity through Christian methods, but not "forced" charity through the government.
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Old 21 April 2017, 07:41 PM
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Most of the meme's suggest (or outright claim) that the people aren't really poor (I'm guessing the meme creators have a Dickensian view of what poor is) so Christian charity wouldn't apply in their mind. Sometimes I hear the claim that they support charity through Christian methods, but not "forced" charity through the government.
I think some of them have a mentality from an environment where, if something horrible befalls you, your fellow churchmembers rally around to support you (bring meals, help out in other ways, possible financial support). Which is great, except a) not everyone belongs to a church/congregation b) that's not always enough to figuratively, or literally, pay the bills.
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Old 21 April 2017, 09:47 PM
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And c), broke people are often part of broke communities; so their friends/family/community members/church members may be no more able to pay the bills than they are.

Not to mention d) which is that in some cases, even when such help is available, it comes with very large strings attached -- repent and say that you deserve to be repeatedly shamed by the church/rest of the family/ etc., or no help for you, you reprobate! Not every person or group offering help behaves like this, of course; but some of them do.
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Old 22 April 2017, 02:57 AM
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Yup..being a widow/er with children is good . And worthy of limited support.


Being a single parent otherwise is sinful and deserves to be punished.

as far as I can tell anyway
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Old 22 April 2017, 12:05 PM
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"A lawmaker wants to make castration mandatory for child sex offenders. Fair?"

The poster says "Hell Yes!"

(Totally disregarding the fact that the real problem is farther north, if you get my drift.)
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Old 22 April 2017, 12:55 PM
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"A lawmaker wants to make castration mandatory for child sex offenders. Fair?"

The poster says "Hell Yes!"

(Totally disregarding the fact that the real problem is farther north, if you get my drift.)
Canada? The North Pol- oh. The North Pole. Of course.
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Old 22 April 2017, 03:40 PM
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Most of the meme's suggest (or outright claim) that the people aren't really poor (I'm guessing the meme creators have a Dickensian view of what poor is) so Christian charity wouldn't apply in their mind. Sometimes I hear the claim that they support charity through Christian methods, but not "forced" charity through the government.
Reminds me of an old work colleague of mine who couldn't understand why we'd suggest purchasing DVDs to put in a Christmas basket our group was donating to a needy family. Why would poor people have a DVD player*? If they can afford that they can't possibly be poor .

*In his limited defense this was back in a time when a DVD player was relatively expensive, at least not super cheap anyway.
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Old 22 April 2017, 04:35 PM
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Canada? The North Pol- oh. The North Pole. Of course.
I actually meant head(the one attached to your neck).
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Old 26 April 2017, 10:10 AM
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It was ANZAC Day here in Australia yesterday so the patriotism was flowing on Facebook. I spotted this winner:



I had to point out to them that pledging allegiance to the flag is an American thing, we've never done that here in Australia. If we do pledge allegiance then it's to the Queen, our head of state.

On the original page the creator of the image wrote "A remake of one found on the internet..."
They obviously found an American meme and changed it to an Australian meme without checking their facts too closely.


Also any meme that start with "I don't care if I offend anyone by this" is awfully obnoxious.
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Old 26 April 2017, 11:10 AM
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I just watched a video a friend of mine posted on facebook yesterday that featured a guy in a pickup truck ranting about how kids today aren't allowed to say the pledge of allegiance anymore, and that's what's wrong with our country, because we aren't allowed to say we love America anymore.

Where do these people get this stuff?????? I've been between two districts, and I know that's a really small sample, but like, ignoring everything else I took issue with in the rant, kids still say the pledge of allegiance. So where did the video guy get the idea kids aren't "allowed" to say it anymore?
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Old 26 April 2017, 11:59 AM
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Unsubstantiated rumor + confirmation bias
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Old 26 April 2017, 09:44 PM
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+ Alt Facts + Stupidity.
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I don't care if I offend anyone by this:
Of course he does. He'd LOVE to offend someone with this. If he doesn't, he'd be disappointed!
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Old 28 April 2017, 01:37 AM
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Yeah, people like that are addicted to outrage. They need that hit, need to believe that they are rebels bravely standing up against the Status Quo, not the Status Quo itself.

It's something I've said elsewhere about the Christian Right, where they simultaneously want to be the brave Christian martyrs standing up to Imperial Rome AND be Imperial Rome, capable crushing anyone who stands in their way. It all results in a toxic mess of a belief system that unfortunately affects world politics.
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I actually meant head (the one attached to your neck).
Perhaps that is the body part that should be chopped off.
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Old 28 April 2017, 05:50 AM
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There's a new Facebook meme going around where people list 10 bands: 9 that they've seen live and "one which is a lie". I guess so people try and guess the band they haven't seen? At the moment it feel like half my FB flist is posting lists of bands and the other half is bitching about people posting lists of bands.
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Old 28 April 2017, 04:05 PM
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I just watched a video a friend of mine posted on facebook yesterday that featured a guy in a pickup truck ranting about how kids today aren't allowed to say the pledge of allegiance anymore, and that's what's wrong with our country, because we aren't allowed to say we love America anymore.

Where do these people get this stuff?????? I've been between two districts, and I know that's a really small sample, but like, ignoring everything else I took issue with in the rant, kids still say the pledge of allegiance. So where did the video guy get the idea kids aren't "allowed" to say it anymore?
Of course they aren't allowed to say the pledge of allegiance. It goes with the fact that no one is allowed to wish anyone a merry Christmas anymore. At least that is what the memes tell me every year. I don't really recall any legislation regarding that though.
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Old 28 April 2017, 04:09 PM
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On the original page the creator of the image wrote "A remake of one found on the internet..."
They obviously found an American meme and changed it to an Australian meme without checking their facts too closely.
I've seen those in Canada as well. An obviously American theme with the nation name replaced.

The most ridiculous was the reverse situation. Someone took a Canadian meme and tried to make it American. The give away was a reference to an American army unit called Princess Patricia's American Light Infantry. In what alternate reality are American army units named after royalty?
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Old 29 April 2017, 12:45 AM
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I had to point out to them that pledging allegiance to the flag is an American thing, we've never done that here in Australia. If we do pledge allegiance then it's to the Queen, our head of state.

On the original page the creator of the image wrote "A remake of one found on the internet..."
They obviously found an American meme and changed it to an Australian meme without checking their facts too closely.


Also any meme that start with "I don't care if I offend anyone by this" is awfully obnoxious.
I was in my school choir from the age of 10 to 12 (80 to 82) we not only knew the national anthem (both verses) but also the royal anthem (God Save the Queen) because we visited a lot of retirement homes and were told that as far as many of the residents were concerned, that was the anthem. The rest of the time we rarely sang it. It wasn't a regular thing. And since most times when it is sang everyone has to be given the words it doubt very much there was ever a time it was sung every day. We have never pledged allegiance to the flag. We don't put our hands on our hearts. If Australia is their country, why are they so keen on being American.
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Old 29 April 2017, 01:03 AM
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Well according to Wikipedia

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"Advance Australia Fair" is the national anthem of Australia. Created by the Scottish-born composer Peter Dodds McCormick, the song was first performed in 1878 and sung in Australia as a patriotic song. It replaced "God Save the Queen" as the official national anthem in 1984, following a plebiscite to choose the national song in 1977.
I know Wikipedia isn't always the best source but this fits in from what I remember.
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