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Old 22 October 2007, 01:32 AM
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Icon402 Music played during Manson murders

Comment: One rumor I've heard is that the Beatles song, Helter Skelter,
was playing while the Manson "family" committed the Tate/Polanski murders.

Another conflicting rumor is that the Mamas and Papas song, Twelve-Thirty,
was playing and the song (on a single 45, looping) was still playing when
a detective investigated the home the morning after the murders.

This second rumor seems less likely. The author of this rumor seems to
think that the words were written to describe the murders -- The young girls
murdered in the Benedict canyon at 12:30 -- even though the song was written
over a year before the murders.

Is there any truth to either rumor?
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Old 25 October 2007, 01:07 AM
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I never heard any of these. The Beatles' song, "Helter Skelter" was partly the inspiration for the crimes of the Tate-LaBianca murders, and Manson would play the Beatles' "White" album to his Family. This album contained the "Helter Skelter" song.

I have never heard that any music was being play at the Tate residence though.

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Old 25 October 2007, 02:12 AM
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All I can think of is...
This is a song Charles Manson stole from the Beatles. We're stealing it back!
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Old 27 October 2007, 11:11 PM
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There is a great website for case info that seems to be down right now, but the website has police mentioning that the Mamas and the Papas song was playing when they first arrived. The lyrics to the song include, "Young girls are coming to the canyon".

I can see the group playing a record that was "cued up", but I can't imagine them bringing theme music along with them.

The website I mentioned is "The Sixties, Manson, and Helter Skelter". I will try to link if I can get it to go back up.
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Old 27 October 2007, 11:30 PM
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When the White Album was remastered and released on CD for the first time, SNL's Weekend Update did a "news story" that included a quote from Charles Manson -- something to the effect of "Now that I hear it again, with the remastered audio, I guess they weren't talking to me after all."
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Old 28 October 2007, 02:08 AM
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I've read pretty much everything there is to read about the Manson case (did a case study of him many, many moons ago). The answers are no the killers did not play music during the murders, and 2) no, there was no music playing when the detectives arrived. In fact, the maid (who arrived at house first and discovered the bodies) and the first police to arrive remarked about how quiet it was.
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