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Old 21 May 2007, 06:41 PM
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Disney suing kids who visit their theme parks -- that ought to do wonders for their image.

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So if I walked up to.. Lets say one of the people who watch over the lines at Disney.. Or a ticket taker, or hey how bout a security officer, and put them in a headlock, or punched them, or deliberately tried to squeeze their hand as hard as I could.. That would be cool with Disney?

I can understand it if its kids who do it by accident, I mean they are kids, it happens.. But stories of teenagers and adults who clearly know better (not only that violence in general is wrong but also that there are actual people in those costumes), I don't see why they'd get a free pass.
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Old 22 May 2007, 04:37 PM
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Lawsuits and criminal prosecutions are two very different things.

a) The victim wouldn't need Disney's permission to press charges.

b) That scenario wouldn't involve Disney as a plaintiff or defendant.

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Actually, for (a) I can see Disney "asking" the employee to not press charges.

And (b) is totally irrelevant. Wouldn't matter to Disney if Disney was involved in the suit or not, from a public relation standpoint (which is what matters to Disney), the newspapers would still say "Disney employee suing 12 year old".
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Old 27 May 2007, 03:38 AM
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Actually, for (a) I can see Disney "asking" the employee to not press charges.
They might do that, but the employee would still be free to press charges whether Disney wanted him to or not -- they couldn't legally prevent him from doing so.

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And (b) is totally irrelevant. Wouldn't matter to Disney if Disney was involved in the suit or not, from a public relation standpoint (which is what matters to Disney), the newspapers would still say "Disney employee suing 12 year old".
Your statement is irrelevant, since the issue being discussed was a criminal prosecution and not a civil lawsuit.

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Old 27 May 2007, 05:05 PM
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I don't know how Mickey is as an employer, but it certainly would slow down employee's pressing charges if, after a warning by Disney, the paper were able to have a headline of, "FORMER Disney Employee Files Charges..." no matter WHO was assaulted or injured.

But that's just my inner conspiracy theorist that is talking here...
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Old 29 May 2007, 05:41 PM
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I'm not surprised at all. I've heard that it used to be a popular Grad Night activity to beat up Disney characters. (now they have security cameras installed at Disney World). Schools have even been banned for stunts like throwing Mickey in the pool at the hotel.

I personally know people who play Disney characters. One of them told me that the adults are often ruder and more pushy than the kids, so I'm not surprised that this extends to violence, too.
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Old 13 June 2007, 03:01 PM
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I am ashamed to admit that I have tripped a mascot. Now before you all get mad at me it was at college before a football game about 5 years ago. The mascot for my college was a Penguin (what's a nice way of saying I thought that was incredibly LAME?) so on game day a guy was walking around in a penguin costume that was very round and me and my friends wanted to see if he could get up once knocked over. I was part of the plan to knock him over, and he couldn't get up for like 5 minutes until his escort actually helped him. At the time we all thought it was funny, but now I realize that it was very wrong. Since then I haven't messed with anyone in a costume.
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Old 27 June 2007, 04:09 PM
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I am ashamed to admit that I have tripped a mascot. Now before you all get mad at me it was at college before a football game about 5 years ago. The mascot for my college was a Penguin (what's a nice way of saying I thought that was incredibly LAME?) so on game day a guy was walking around in a penguin costume that was very round and me and my friends wanted to see if he could get up once knocked over. I was part of the plan to knock him over, and he couldn't get up for like 5 minutes until his escort actually helped him. At the time we all thought it was funny, but now I realize that it was very wrong. Since then I haven't messed with anyone in a costume.
In Elementary School, we use to have some character, I think it was Clean Cat, come around pretty often. I always pulled her(?) tail. After reading this thread I feel like I should go stand in the corner....
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Old 28 August 2007, 02:06 PM
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When I was playing the Easter Bunny at the local mall I got pushed and hit a couple of times on the walk from the photo-both-thingie to the dressing room. All by obnoxious teenagers... But nothing so bad as to cause injury, just scare the crap out of me
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Old 28 August 2007, 02:13 PM
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My college boyfriend had a dorm-mate who was the Ohio University Bobcat mascot. Apparently, becuase of the height of the costume relative to the height of small children, he got head-butted in the 'nads rather frequently by kids trying to hug him.
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Old 05 September 2007, 05:44 PM
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My daughter used to portray Rafiki in the Magic Kingdom, but one rotten kid (she guessed he was about 12) came up to her flailing his arms and doing pretend savate kicks. She edged away but he still connected with her knee, causing her some days of pain. She was upset that her escort was chatting with another employee and didn't immediately come to her aid.
This is why I believe that all escorts should have to be people who also wear the character costumes (if they aren't already). Experiencing what happens to a character should make an escort more likely to pay attention to the character they are escorting and the surrounding crowd and not anything else that catches their attention. I can't tell you how often I feel for the characters when their escort is not doing their job properly and the character ends up getting mauled by a crowd.
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Old 05 September 2007, 08:24 PM
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I guess there ought be a mascot union.
For "mascots", I couldn't tell you. But for characters in theme parks? Yes, there is.
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Old 05 September 2007, 08:56 PM
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Chuck E cheese--youngest's 9th birthday. Some little boy decides Chucky is standing too upright. Chucky ends up on the floor. Chucky was only a 19 yr old kid...

Who had been headbutted in just the right spot. OUCH.

I have a friend who used to work at the Haunted Mansion. These are dressed up positions, but not actual characters(like Mickey). She could tell you stories of people who would attack them--and they looked human, ok--up their skirts, flirting.. all sorts of things...

I really feel for anyone who has the guts to be dressed in character like this. Where is that "pOwned" picture of Micky with the kid? Yeah--that would be me--I'm afraid I couldn't keep my cool.

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Old 28 February 2008, 09:57 PM
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Comment: I am commenting on your stories about Disneyland's Costumed
Characters.

I myself was employeed with this company for several years as a costumed
character. During my employment I was beaten, bitten, kicked, molested,
and had sustained a crippleing back injury which has caused me permanent
injury needing a serious back surgery. Now it's true when guests come into
the park they do forget themselves and mistreat the characters. This is
just pure crazyness and the employees/cast members are extreamly good
about not retaliating. I never broke character even after being beaten by
a grown man. I am a 5' tall 95 lb. woman and was beaten by a 6'+ man. Not
my idea of a great day at the park if you know what I mean.

We have been asked not to discuss any details, but I'm telling you that
any alligations by the public that they were mistreated by a costumed
character at Disneyland is pure baloney. These people are kind, and
trained very well. Never in my life have I ever known any one to outwardly
be mean to any of the park guests. It's hard too when you have no voice
and are being kicked by a grown man while he laughs hysterically and
repeatedly follows you around kicking you in the rear end. Not my idea of
funny!

So in conclusion these people give their hearts to make people happy and
to entertain. They are not a punching bag, but good hearted women and men
who are working for little pay. Please remember the next time you are at
one of these parks and you see that cute little furry character that it's
a person who has feelings and feels pain when injured.

Now every time I bend over I live in constant pain and have no hope of
ever recovering 100% not to mention that everything I loved doing such as
skiing, ice skateing, snow boarding, water skiing, horse back riding,
rollerblading, running, dancing (I was a professional dancer for over 10
years), and a host of other activities I'm no longer able to do thanks to
some jerk who thought it would be funny to hurt Mickey Mouse.

Thanks and I hope you pass this on because it's 100% true and it happened
to me.
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Old 28 February 2008, 10:41 PM
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Many people find the huge, disporportionate faces frozen into giant grins to be unnerving, if not downright creepy. Our instincts realize that something is incredibly wrong and sends off red flags.

Then there's the age-old instinct to put members of the pack who are getting too rambunctious and forward in their behavior in their place. This would even go for the people who do it because it's 'funny.'

Unfortunately, people who think it's acceptable to attack the people in the costumes aren't thinking of the people inside: they only see the characters, and they know the characters aren't real. Therefore, they don't see it as wrong.

So it boils down to this:

-They trigger the 'something is wrong here' instinct.
-They trigger the 'out-of-line pack member; do something' instinct.
-They trigger the 'it's not even real' logic.

Personally, I find those suits quite unnerving, but I wouldn't attack them: I know there's a real person underneath of them. If I focus on the body movements instead of the faces, I find them a bit easier to handle.
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Old 28 February 2008, 10:44 PM
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-They trigger the 'something is wrong here' instinct.
-They trigger the 'out-of-line pack member; do something' instinct.
-They trigger the 'it's not even real' logic.
It doesn't even get that analytical. For the most part, it's people thinking it's funny. Kids, I can understand (up to a certain age). But there is absolutely no excuse for an adult to do that. Would they beat up the Elephant Man, or try to stay as far away from him as possible, because of his features?
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Old 28 February 2008, 10:47 PM
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But there is absolutely no excuse for an adult to do that. Would they beat up the Elephant Man, or try to stay as far away from him as possible, because of his features?
The former when drunk or in a mob, the latter when sober and alone.

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Old 28 February 2008, 11:34 PM
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It doesn't even get that analytical. For the most part, it's people thinking it's funny. Kids, I can understand (up to a certain age). But there is absolutely no excuse for an adult to do that. Would they beat up the Elephant Man, or try to stay as far away from him as possible, because of his features?
Of course there's no excuse. Unfortunately, humans are remarkably squirrelly creatures who act on animal instincts more than they realize or admit.

And I suspect that part of the 'funny' occurs because attacking something that disturbs them deep down relieves part of the stress.

Otherwise, it's also a good tool to make themselves look more 'macho' in front of other people. (Social animal hierarchy instinct.)
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