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Old 07 August 2018, 08:23 PM
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Reminds me of the house I saw that had a West Virginia state flag and a Confederate battle flag.
They welcome ALL Virginias!
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Old 07 August 2018, 09:07 PM
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If you're flying a flag that says "United We Stand" right next to a Confederate battle flag, you're definitely sending mixed messages.
They're using a very specific definition of the word "we".


Which does not include us.


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It's not just one store, it's all the supermarkets and many craft stores. I don't have time to complain to them all.
Ah. I'm living in an area in which for any given town it may well be "the" supermarket, or at any rate one of two or three of them. Even people in large cities can often only easily get to a limited number of such, and I leapt to the false assumption that the problem was partly that you couldn't easily just go to a different grocery store.

I suppose you could try complaining at whatever store or stores usually gets most of your business, and hope somebody else is complaining at the others.
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Old 09 August 2018, 01:33 PM
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Don't drop F Bombs at news conferences.


[although I think Local Talk Show Host is making too big a deal of it]

To a caller to local talk show: Millennials are not responsible for all of the world's problems!
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Old 09 August 2018, 02:19 PM
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It's generally not necessary to reply to a group email providing information just to say "got it." But if you must, at least don't reply all.
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Old 09 August 2018, 02:29 PM
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Esprise Me's post made me think of this one--when you reply all to a message welcoming a new employee, it looks like brown-nosing, not sincerity. You're making sure everyone in the department knows you sent a welcome message.

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Old 09 August 2018, 03:15 PM
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Don't drop F Bombs at news conferences.


[although I think Local Talk Show Host is making too big a deal of it]

To a caller to local talk show: Millennials are not responsible for all of the world's problems!
Who is supposed to be a millennial in that scenario?

I'm not a millennial, and I couldn't care less about an answer like that. I get why a politician should avoid it, but I disagree with people who get outraged about it.

The only time I get remotely concerned about language like that is if it is directed at a person, or if someone is being really free with it around my kids -- not because I think it will somehow damage my kids, but because I don't want to have to deal with them learning it and being too young to understand why they can't go around saying it.
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Old 09 August 2018, 03:50 PM
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Erwins, the caller was blaming the millennials for an overall coarsening of the language. In the caller's mind, millennials have made it acceptable to drop F Bombs in public. Because NO ONE has ever dropped an F Bomb in public before yesterday.
Yeah, they're totally to blame.



Jealous did apologize to the reporter later on; I see it as him not having his filters up. An honest mistake.

Local Talk Show Host is rightfully concerned about the ongoing coarsening of language and discourse but I got the impression that he was reacting more to the lack of pearl clutching/reaction among the people standing around. Sure we all drop F Bombs at one time or another, but this was public and no one said "that's uncalled for!"
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Old 09 August 2018, 04:21 PM
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The example of the deterioration of public discourse in that incident is not the use of the f-word. It's that political adversaries were trying to spread the idea that a venture capitalist was a socialist. I pretty much think his response was spot on, although, as you say, he bypassed a filter there. (I don't really blame the reporter for seeking a quote on it. But it sounds like the current governor has been spreading it around. Spreading patently false rumors about someone for your own gain and to tarnish the person's reputation* is much more reprehensible than using the f-word in my book.)

* I don't think "socialist" should be viewed as reputation-tarnishing, but it is for a big chunk of Americans.
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Speaking of...I have friends who are Bernie Sanders umm fans, cultists, whakos? ( I love Bernie but seriously he is not the savior of all humankind). Who think he is a Democrat. I told one such friend ( one of the more reasonable). That he was an Independent Socialist Democrat and that he caucased with the Dems in the Senate. She was flummoxed. She began explaining to me how Bernie got left out of the caucased. Sigh.

What amuses me is that I knew and admired Sanders before these people ever heard of him. They think they are experts about him and if it wasn't for the evil conniving of the awful Hillary he would be president.
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Old 09 August 2018, 06:05 PM
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Erwins, the caller was blaming the millennials for an overall coarsening of the language. In the caller's mind, millennials have made it acceptable to drop F Bombs in public. Because NO ONE has ever dropped an F Bomb in public before yesterday.
I am not a millennial. I am a baby boomer. An early boomer at that.

We dropped a lot of F bombs in the late 1960's and the 1970's. We tried not to drop them around our parents, or on the record; but we did notice that our parents, at least most of them, recognized the word -- if they hadn't, we wouldn't have had to avoid it around them, now would we? -- I cleaned up my own language when I got on the planning board, to reduce the chances of coming out with it at a meeting. A lot of my friends cleaned up their language when they had children.

The difference was mostly that newspapers, radio, TV stations wouldn't have quoted it; probably not even as 'F---' (I don't know how old the phrase 'F-bomb' is, but I don't remember seeing it until fairly recently.) At most, they might have said that the person had used an expletive; but probably they wouldn't have mentioned it at all, just like they didn't usually mention politicians' out-of-marriage sexual behavior.

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The example of the deterioration of public discourse in that incident is not the use of the f-word. It's that political adversaries were trying to spread the idea that a venture capitalist was a socialist.
Yes. That, and an increased willingness to say nasty and irrelevant and/or untrue things about political opponents.

Admittedly, it's probably not increased since, say, the 1800's. But there was a while in there during which personal attacks, and/or blatantly lying attacks, were considered out of line.
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Old 09 August 2018, 06:31 PM
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I'm not sure if it is happening more, but the degree of acceptance when someone is actually caught blatantly lying about their opponent seems to have increased exponentially recently.
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Old 09 August 2018, 08:21 PM
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On the other hand, erwins, I've noticed quite recently -- seems to me mostly since January 2016 -- a far greater tendency for news stories to note in the headline or in the first line or two that a politician's claim of something is "unsupported", "with no evidence", or sometimes they'll even come almost straight out and say "false" (though "lie" is still unusual.)

I think a lot of news organizations are having second thoughts about not calling the behavior out; though it undoubtedly depends on what one's reading/listening to, and of course some sources are joining in particular lies on purpose.
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Uh, no, I actually can't take payment in the form of a picture of a credit card (that belongs to sombody else, no less!)on your phone.
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I'd made arrangements to leave an item out on my porch so a person from a Facebook local community page could come and pick it up but they messaged me saying that they'd dropped by but left without the item becausethey couldn't get past my locked gate. Which is weird, because my gate doesn't have a lock. It just has a regular gate latch but it's a little hard to open because the gates have shifted position and it sometimes gets a bit jammed.

Things you shouldn't have to explain to an adult: how to open an unlocked gate.
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Old 11 August 2018, 03:25 PM
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Sounds like they're lazy and trying to get you to just deliver it to them.
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Old 12 August 2018, 03:27 PM
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If you want to post memes on FB to take digs at the current Liberal government knock yourself out but just an FYI you're going to look really stupid when the dates on those memes indicate they were created BEFORE the Liberals came to power and were made during the almost 10 year Tory rule. So who are you actually criticizing? Clearly not the PM you think you are!
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It's generally not necessary to reply to a group email providing information just to say "got it." But if you must, at least don't reply all.
I have a supervisor who wants me to respond to every email he sends, just to say I've got it. He made a point of telling me this in two reviews ago - that my communication skills needed work because I didn't tell him I'd read his emails.

I've not changed a thing and he told me that I'd improved dramatically.

My manager is very stupid.
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A place being closed due to a natural disaster doesn’t warrant giving them a one star review on TripAdvisor. I can understand want to inform people so they don’t waste time trying to get there only to find that the road is closed, but it’s not like it’s their fault. There’s no reason to bring down their TripAdvisor rating over it. Granted one review out of hundreds isn’t going to hurt them that much, and part of the problem is that TripAdvisor lacks a way to provide a purely informational post without also providing a star rating.
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Old 13 August 2018, 05:17 PM
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This is a problem with Yelp and similar sites; there needs to be a way to just comment on your experience (e.g. came to this restaurant at 6pm on a weeknight, was told there would be a 2 hour wait, decided not to bother-- that's certainly something I'd like to know, but not something that merits a low rating; maybe that wait is because this place is awesome!)
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Old 13 August 2018, 05:39 PM
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A friend of mine was recently appointed Chief Librarian at a place where I once worked - she is not a spiteful person so I know she won't actually do anything, well, spiteful, but there are a few people who were managers there when we both were lowly underlings who were not easy to work for. To say the least. And now she is their boss. It's just a little thing that is making me smile today. And the TYSHTTP is don't be so quick to kick out at the people below you, they may pass you on their way up and will one day be looking down the employment ladder at you.
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