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Old 07 April 2010, 04:09 PM
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Shout We will all pay for the CLASS Act

Comment: Hey!!! There's a surprise in the Reconciliation Bill.

We will all be taxed $150-$250 PER MONTH beginning in 2011 for the NEW
Community Living Assistance Services and Support Act (CLASS Act) that was
added to the Reconciliation Bill on Friday night, Mar 19, 2010, before
Congress voted on Sunday, Mar. 21, 2010. It will help pay for long-term
home-care for the elderly. Isn't that nice?

In January of 2011, the government will start taking between $150-$250 out
of our paychecks every month. And, not to worry, there is no
discrimination here. ALL of us will be taxed on this one. Rich, poor,
everyone except people who don't have a job, is included. If you have a
job and get a pay check, the government will take this tax from you. Just
to clarify, this is not a fee per household. It is a payroll tax deduction
PER PERSON.

And there's more to this surprise! The program won't begin for five years,
and they don't expect to pay out anything for at least 10 years. So we get
a head start on paying for it. Isn't that great? The government will take
our money and put it in their savings account for at least 10 years, and
then they will start giving it to other people. What a great idea!

The CLASS Act, (isn't that a great name for it?) was apparently a pet
project of the late Sen. Ted Kennedy, who was never able to get support
for it because it was just to costly. What a wonderful tribute to Senator
Kennedy! I know he would be so proud of Nancy for getting this done for
him.

Beneficiaries will include anyone age 65 and older who have paid into the
program for at least five years, but they have to wait until they are old
enough to require home health care. I know it's a little confusing, but
I'm sure Nancy and the boys in Washington really do know what they are
doing. So, it's all good.

Gee, I need to start budgeting for this now. I don't have an extra
$150-$250 per month, and neither does my husband. So we'll need to figure
out how we can cut our expenses by $500 by next January... Either that, or
we could each get another job... No, that won't work. There are no jobs.
Hmmmmm... Hopefully we'll figure something out.

No wonder Mrs. Pelosi was in such a big hurry to get that silly little
Reconciliation Bill passed. She wanted it to be a big SURPRISE! Isn't she
a stinker?
I can't wait to find out what other surprises are in that bill. Thanks,
Nancy!

PS: Just punched some numbers into the calculator... If I put $200/month
in an interest bearing account of some kind, earning, let's say at 5%
interest (I know that's a little high for these times, but it's a nice
round number) for five years, I'd have about $14,000 at the end of that
time period. Double that if Joe did it too. I could buy one heck of a
health insurance policy with that kind of money. Oh well. The government
is going to take care of me so I don't have to worry about it. What was I
thinking?
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Old 07 April 2010, 04:22 PM
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From the debil White House dot Gov website:

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Title VIII. Community Living Assistance Services and Supports Act (CLASS Act)

Establishing a Voluntary, Self-Funding Long-Term Insurance Choice for American Families

The Act provides Americans with a new option to finance long-term services and care in the event of a disability.
It is a self-funded and voluntary long-term care insurance choice. Workers will pay in premiums in order to receive a daily cash benefit if they develop a disability. Need will be based on difficulty in performing basic activities such as bathing or dressing. The benefit is flexible: it could be used for a range of community support services, from respite care to home care.
No taxpayer funds will be used to pay benefits under this provision. The program will actually reduce Medicaid spending, as people are able to continue working and living in their homes and not enter nursing homes. Safeguards will be put in place to ensure its premiums are enough to cover its costs.
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Old 07 April 2010, 04:23 PM
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Here's a page on it for Open Congress.com

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H.R.3001 - CLASS Act

To amend the Public Health Service Act to help individuals with functional impairments and their families pay for services and supports that they need to maximize their functionality and independence and have choices about community participation, education, and employment, and for other purposes
Introduced in July 2007 & that was the last action on it.

http://www.producersweb.com/r/TWGC/d...c16f7d7e1c84f5

Bill text.

VOLUNTARY is the key word there.

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What is the CLASS Act?

According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, a leader in health policy and communications, the Community Living Assistance Services and Supports (CLASS) Act is a national, voluntary insurance program to facilitate community living services and supports. The program will compete against private insurance by providing individuals with a cash benefit to purchase non-medical services and supports necessary to maintain community residence.

Some of the program highlights include:

Financing is obtained through monthly premiums paid by voluntary payroll deductions.

* Working adults will be automatically enrolled in the program, unless they choose to opt-out.

* To qualify for benefits individuals must be 18 years old.

* Individuals must contribute monthly premiums to the program for at least five years before receiving cash benefits.

"The CLASS Act will not have an immediate benefit for seniors," says Batsell. "Since you have to be under the plan for five years before making a claim, the plan will most likely only benefit those who are 57 years old and below."

Even if the program is included in legislation, it could take up to eight years before agents are directly impacted by it. If the Act is passed, the Health and Human Services Director will have two years to come up with rules and regulations and as Mickey stated earlier, an individual has to be under the plan for five years before making a claim. This buys agents plenty of time to get up-to-speed with the details and language of the proposed program.
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Old 07 April 2010, 04:24 PM
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I'd like to see the cite where it's a poll tax. Those tend not to get passed due to the way they cause riots and changes of parties in power in England.
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Old 07 April 2010, 04:25 PM
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I'd like to see the cite where it's a poll tax. Those tend not to get passed due to the way they cause riots and changes of parties in power in England.
Didn't the Voting Rights Act make poll taxes illegal, anyway?

ETA: 24th Amendment, apparently.
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Old 07 April 2010, 04:33 PM
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Didn't the Voting Rights Act make poll taxes illegal, anyway?

ETA: 24th Amendment, apparently.
I think that's a different kind of poll tax. The term classically refers to taxes levied per head, or poll, rather than amount of income or as a percentage of sales. The tax talked about in the 24th Amendment is about people literally saying "if you want to vote, you must pay me first".
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Old 07 April 2010, 04:43 PM
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OK. So help me out here, folks. Where is the OP getting their $150+ per month figure?
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Old 07 April 2010, 04:48 PM
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As far as I'm concerned, Class Act is the second-best Kid 'N' Play movie to House Party, and it's practically criminal that it hasn't been released on DVD.
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Old 07 April 2010, 05:00 PM
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I think that's a different kind of poll tax. The term classically refers to taxes levied per head, or poll, rather than amount of income or as a percentage of sales. The tax talked about in the 24th Amendment is about people literally saying "if you want to vote, you must pay me first".
Ah, I'm unfamiliar with the original usage. In the context of the US, it seems to most frequently refer to "pay to vote" taxes.
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If I put $200/month
in an interest bearing account of some kind, earning, let's say at 5%
interest (I know that's a little high for these times, but it's a nice
round number) for five years, I'd have about $14,000 at the end of that
time period.
In what magical bank is someone getting 5% interest?!?! Most rates I've seen in here in the NY/NJ area of the US have savings account rates of 0.5 to1% (give or take a bit).
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